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Shouldn't someone invent this Programming Language called D? Or Am I Really Stupid And There is already This Programming Language called D?
I think there was this language called B, and then evolved to C, and then evolved to C++, shouldn't evolve to D, or D++, or E?

P.S. If you ignore this topic, I don't care. If you are the inventor of D programming someday you'd be rich.

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WHAT THE FLIBFLAB ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?

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Quan Chi2 · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:22 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

lol.. I wasn't serious..

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:27 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Love.Dog. · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:45 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I was just basically talking about how C++ is kind of old, my main focus wasn't on:

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

Almost every app you buy in a store or online, including games, and all the programs for all console games, is written in C or C++. Why not VB or Java or something else? That's an exercise left up to the reader.
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Dr Brain · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:32 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Almost every app you buy in a store or online, including games, are written for x86 Windows platforms. Why not Linux or Alpha machines? That's an exercise left for Ekted.

Just because it's widely used doesn't mean it's best.

BTW, I do believe that there's already a D language.
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Yes, there is a D Language. I Just found out
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/

I got confused, it was either a programming tutorial, or D Language (programming tutorial = bolded)

"It seems to me that most of the "new" programming languages fall into one of two categories: Those from academia with radical new paradigms and those from large corporations with a focus on RAD and the web. Maybe it's time for a new language born out of practical experience implementing compilers." -- Michael

"Great, just what I need.. another D in programming." -- Segfault

And who's Segfault, and who's Michael?

Love.Dog. · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:56 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Umm, Guest, don't really think that is D Programming. I think it is a programming tutorial and there are people saying stuff like
"Great, just what I need.. another D in programming."
I'm not sure though...

If I'm not incorrect, I bet that Guest just went on google, searched for D Programming and got that as the first resultWell, I think its obvious.

http://www.google.com

Edit: By the way, there is F Programming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_programming_language
http://www.fortran.com/F/

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:41 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

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Love.Dog. · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:37 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I agree, C++ is kinda old, but there are many updates. Still, it seems just too OLD.

(no offense)

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Quan Chi2 · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 7:19 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

How is it getting old if it is still being updated?

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

It is not being updated. C is C. C++ is C++. Some companies like Micosoft (*cough*) try to usurp anything this is public domain and make it proprietary. They add all kinds of special extensions to the language. This does not update the language; it merely makes you commit to their OS and their dev tools.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:07 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

At least they mark them "Microsoft Specific".

And C++ is updated sorta-kinda every now and then, especially if you consider P J Plauger's contributions an upgrade. Too bad I don't.
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Love.Dog. · Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:42 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yes, I agree C++ is all over the place.
Some people might think its new because it has many updates
but i dont.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:31 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Sadly you don't know what you're talking about.

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Programming languages shouldnt be described by the operating age it has but by the level it is.
Levels in programming languages is a way to know how far it is from the binary language(the computer's own native language). The closer the programming language is to the binary language, the more powerful it is at the cost of ease to debug and develop. Higher languages are much easier to code on and are even easier to debug. Currently, the highest programming language is not really one, it is scripting languages. Scripting languages(like batch, perl, python, php, bash) are pretty much the highest programming mean you have to communicate instructions to a computer.

The Assembly language is the lowest language(meaning it is the last human understandable language before the computer's own language) and it is, as I said, the most powerful. Note that the assembly language is not really widely used because of its biggest problem : it is not portable. C was made to circumvent this issue, it is in fact called the portable Assembly language because all platforms have a compiler for it. C is a very high level language compared to assembly though. As time went, people thought of a new method to organise coding, this method was called object oriented programming (OOP). C++ is merely a specialisation of the C programming language in OOP (take note however that C can in fact have OOP design too and this is probably why C is pretty much as popular as C++ if not more).

Just to give you an idea of the programming languages levels, i'll try to make an ordered list of the most known) :
Binary, ASM, ..., C C++, ..., ..., Delphi, ..., VB C# Java, ..., ..., ..., scripting languages

As time goes, programming languages are more and more moving away from the binary language, mainly because computers get faster and faster and the loss in speed with those
are becoming less and less an issue. However, theres still applications for low languages such as operating systems, hardware drivers, etc.

Theres a programming language (or scripting language) for every project's need currently and we can't really get any higher than scripting languages(heh maybe our own language ;P, who knows).

hope it answered your question,

Nik_89

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

Pretty much agreed to all of that. Note also that the further you get from ASM, the less control you have over what actually happens. In other words:

mov [x], 1

in ASM is a single opcode.

x= 1;

in C is probably a single opcode.

x = 1;

in Java could potentially invoke a heap allocation, call a constructor, do bounds checking, perform the assignment, etc.

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Bak · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:07 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

well...

Integer x = new Interger(1);

would, but you're not usually using the wrappers.

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Dr Brain · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:18 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I think the primitives (i.e. ints) are the exception to that rule.