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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: New IM? |
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So who's making the new Instant Messenger? _________________ 4,691 irradiated haggis! |
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Contempt+ Server Help Squatter
Age:34 Gender: Joined: May 15 2005 Posts: 682 Location: Home Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dunno, MGB might have just put that there.
Couple of friends of mine and I are trying to make an Operating System in Flash. Lol, kind of stupid if you ask me, but hey, what else can you do in web design? _________________ SSE Network Administrator |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Well, I did hack up a Miranda plugin to use Chatnet protocol a while ago so could do private messages via Miranda, then I remembered I didn't want to talk to anyone in SS anyways. |
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Quan Guest
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Just get MSN and call it a day. |
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Siaon Novice
Age:42 Joined: Dec 04 2002 Posts: 49 Offline
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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It's not going to be easy to make the next generation of IMs. _________________
Yesterday was history, Tomorrow's a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present. |
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newb Turds are yummy
Age:32 Gender: Joined: Mar 15 2005 Posts: 1267 Location: England Offline
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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It kind of is, if you know what the hell you are doing, have a lot of time on your hands, and have a bunch of people to work on it with you. _________________ Haha SpecShip |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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newb wrote: | It kind of is, if you know what the hell you are doing, have a lot of time on your hands, and have a bunch of people to work on it with you. |
Name any existing IM that was written by someone who knew what the hell they were doing? |
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Muskrat Server Help Squatter
Age:37 Joined: Aug 24 2004 Posts: 829 Location: Swamp Offline
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to say skype but..... nvm |
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newb Turds are yummy
Age:32 Gender: Joined: Mar 15 2005 Posts: 1267 Location: England Offline
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | [..]
Name any existing IM that was written by someone who knew what the hell they were doing? |
Gaim? Trillian?
I'm sure they knew what they were doing, otherwise it wouldn't be a chat client would it? |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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newb wrote: | Gaim? Trillian?
I'm sure they knew what they were doing, otherwise it wouldn't be a chat client would it? |
Trillian is a bloated piece of garbage. |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter
Age:41 Gender: Joined: Mar 05 2005 Posts: 807 Location: I will stab you. Offline
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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You think trillians bad... Gaim has a fun bug that makes it open ports and leave them open (and unused as far as I can tell).
After running it for a week, I opened currports and found gaim had around 300 ports open. _________________ There are 7 user(s) ignoring me right now. |
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Donkano Server Help Squatter
Gender: Joined: Jul 02 2003 Posts: 763 Offline
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Whoever made it did a sloppy job then. They should use the method of: Whatever is opened must be closed at some point. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not talking about simple bugs. I'm talking about overall design. An IM should be lean and mean. It should not have 100 buttons/tabs, 13 different windows, and be a 10mb install. When designing an IM, your first focus should not be skinning it. It should be on a stable networking environment. |
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newb Turds are yummy
Age:32 Gender: Joined: Mar 15 2005 Posts: 1267 Location: England Offline
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Trillian is not exactly the best, but it does the job when I want to log on AIM and ICQ.
Gaim is okay for me, the overall skin isn't exactly at its best. But they both could do better.
That's why I use MSN Messenger, and get plugins to remove buttons, ads, windows ect. Works fine. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!
Age:36 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I use Miranda-IM, which I think MGB recommended once. As they brag on the website, the executable and the AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN, Yahoo plugins will fit on a floppy. Also, all the functionality is in plugins, the executable simply contains all the interface/utility functions, so you can disable all you want (except for the DB plugin, which is understandable). _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I tried Miranda once. I thought the UI was crap. |
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i88gerbils Oldbie Server Help
Gender: Joined: Dec 13 2002 Posts: 423 Location: OH Offline
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Ekted although I am a fan of old versions of ICQ. Plus, they only now have OSCAR support (alpha?). I'm still waiting to see if Miranda 2.0 will be any improvement over usability.
gAIM for windows blows, but still only thing I can use without puking too much. _________________ Oldbie Server Help |
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newb Turds are yummy
Age:32 Gender: Joined: Mar 15 2005 Posts: 1267 Location: England Offline
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Haha, Gaim can translate your text into a lot of languages. Probably very poorly, but it can.
I like the UI of Gaim in fact. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | I use Miranda-IM, which I think MGB recommended once. |
Or any chance I get. I love Miranda as the best multi-platform/protocol client. I'm still partial to CenterICQ for console, but use Miranda for all usage. Plus, look how bland I can make it. Jabber (myjabber.net server), AOL (alpha oscar), and good old ICQ. Jabber supports all non-Google jabber users and picks up the rare MSN/Yahoo (0 for yahoo right now) user that doesn't use any other protocol. Stupid Platinum-Halo and his MSN.
Having block-all-users until I add them to my list also helps a lot with useless spam (lets cyber/my server doesn't work). |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter
Age:41 Gender: Joined: Mar 05 2005 Posts: 807 Location: I will stab you. Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Youre on your own contact list? |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Cerium wrote: | Youre on your own contact list? |
He also has his own picture stuck on a mirror. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer
Age:38 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Cerium wrote: | Youre on your own contact list? |
I do the same thing. It comes in handy when things are freaking out. You can tell pretty quickly if something is wrong. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!
Age:36 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | I tried Miranda once. I thought the UI was crap. |
The UI is crap, but as MGB said, it's just so light. |
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newb Turds are yummy
Age:32 Gender: Joined: Mar 15 2005 Posts: 1267 Location: England Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Mine GO BOOM wrote: | [..]
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Wtf? Ling Ling?
Wasn't that a character out of "Hot Chick"? |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Cerium wrote: | Youre on your own contact list? |
No, I have different ICQ numbers. One is for my CenterICQ contact list, which I use rarely. It is also useful for debugging the jabber transport protocols, testing new client versions, etc. Also came in handy when I was creating bots, as I also had them use that account to allow me to check up on their status without entering Subspace. Also had it message me if any bot when offline, if someone was trying to abuse a bot, or if one had to incorrectly shutdown at some point.
newb wrote: | Wtf? Ling Ling? |
An asian friend of mine. Not everyone's name is Joe, Jim, Alice, or Bob. |
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