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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:50 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
it's more like auto-ignore than censorship
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:38 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Bak wrote:
it's more like auto-ignore than censorship


It's someone deciding what is offensive to others. Fuck that.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:33 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
I am an American white male and I think the word "hello" is a racist slur toward me. Are you going to add it to your Nazi file?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
That's why I refuse to have a computer filter language in my zone. Only a human can do it with any degree of accuracy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Does anybody want to go excercise their free speech? tongue.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:21 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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Does anybody want to go excercise their free speech? tongue.gif


Free speech only applies when it's the government trying to shut you up, not a private entity.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:15 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
No, everyone can speak their minds anywhere they want to. However there are some people who will not assume responsibility. This is also true for sysops as much as it is for players.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:23 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Call a cop a "pig" to his face and he'll arrest you.

Spam forums and your post will be junked.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:07 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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Call a cop a "pig" to his face and he'll arrest you.


Yes, a cop might, but there is no legal precedent for it unless you're already going to be arrested anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:22 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
just calling the cop a pig is enough to get you arrested

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:58 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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There is a difference between calling a cop a "pig" and telling the cop that you find him a "pig".

The difference is that in the second one you express your opinion, the first one doesn't do that.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:42 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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No matter what you do, you can't filter all possible "creative" text: sh1t, @ssh0le, etc.


In HZ we only filter out the racism. If someone is avoiding the filter then they get silenced. That way if people want to joke around with their friends and call eachother racist names, that's fine, there's no malicious intent. But if someone wants to go out of their way to call a player who has the racism filter turned on a racist name through use of special characters, that's where we draw the line.

Personally I don't see what your issue is with this, Ekted, I know you're big on freedom speech and all that, but before I implemented this rule there used to be a strict non-racism policy in HZ, and more than a couple bans for it each day. This is a perfect compromise for the people who are genuinely offended (yeah, I find it hard to believe that someone would get offended over text, but there's really no way of telling).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:25 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Ekted is big on free speech but not on open source, interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:16 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Free speech is what you are allowed to do. Open source is what others expect of you. Two different directions. And I am not against open source. I just don't think it is a panacea.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
whats a panacea?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:57 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Ekted wrote:
No matter what you do, you can't filter all possible "creative" text: sh1t, @ssh0le, etc.

Exactly. I'm not in favor of foul speech, but I'm not in favor of blockers either.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:09 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Chambahs wrote:
whats a panacea?


A dictionary works wonders.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:40 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Maybe in Hick towns of the 18th century like in Montana, but in California it won't fly.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:15 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:16 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Of course you won't be able to filter everything, but for your example you could write code to replace characters, and then run a check to prevent people from trying to bypass.

But... whatever, I don't even know why I'm even visiting these forums here.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:23 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Still in Spain, unfortunately...

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Time to sue them for making my neck hurt.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:22 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Yeah right and batman can't handle the oranges in Subspace?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:03 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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Still in Spain, unfortunately...

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¡They're crazy here! ¡They don't use one question mark for questions here, but two!


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