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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:08 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Death To All Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725124.500
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:13 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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By Dan Vergano, USA TODAY
Fri Aug 12, 7:32 AM ET

Satellite and weather-balloon research released Friday removes a last bastion of scientific doubt about global warming, researchers say.

Surface temperatures have shown small but steady increases since the 1970s, but the tropics had shown little atmospheric heating - and even some cooling. Now, after sleuthing reported in three papers released by the journal Science, revisions have been made to that atmospheric data.

Climate expert Ben Santer of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, lead author of one of the papers, says that those fairly steady measurements in the tropics have been a key argument "among people asking, 'Why should I believe this global warming hocus-pocus?' "

After examining the satellite data, collected since 1979 by National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration weather satellites, Carl Mears and Frank Wentz of Remote Sensing Systems in Santa Rosa, Calif., found that the satellites had drifted in orbit, throwing off the timing of temperature measures. Essentially, the satellites were increasingly reporting nighttime temperatures as daytime ones, leading to a false cooling trend. The team also found a math error in the calculations.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:32 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The fact that the last winter I had was one day of rain...yeah, I think it's beyond doubt that global warming is about to fuck us up the ass.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:40 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bullshit. In Michigan, the seasons are slowly swapping, perhaps not in proof of global warming, but in proof of something larger instead.

As opposed to ten years ago:

Summer now lasts from mid-July through New Years.

Winter lasts from mid-January through Independence Day.

Over the last 10 years, the seasons have been later and later. 3 months ahead over the last 10 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:57 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah, there's the whole season coming in the wrong time of the year thing as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:16 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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The group, financed by the petroleum industry, has used the data disparities to dispute the views of global-warming activists.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:29 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Havnt you guys ever seen 'The Day after tommorow"? Jeez...

Pretty often they come up with a "It wont happen" or "it will happen". The fact is, they dont know for 100% certainity, without a shadow of a doubt..

It is my belief that the Earth has its own correcting system..either way, the Earth will be around till the coming, and although we need to take care of the Earth, be assured that it will be around till after the end times. After the end times, a New Heaven, and a new Earth will be made. Heaven will decend on Earth, aka, heaven will be on earth.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:43 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ok, now you're just sounding like a hypocrite.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:18 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Doesn't really matter.. once oil runs out, the world will probably goto war. so MAD.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:46 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That would suck. Anyway confess acctually made some sence. He is right that heaven will come to earth take the christains and the earth will belong to the devil. But anyway to not get off topic global warming sucks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:12 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes, confess is correct indeed, the Earth will survive to be here for a long time.
Mankind...that's a whole another different story.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:52 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Confess wrote:
Havnt you guys ever seen 'The Day after tommorow"? Jeez...

Pretty often they come up with a "It wont happen" or "it will happen". The fact is, they dont know for 100% certainity, without a shadow of a doubt..

It is my belief that the Earth has its own correcting system..either way, the Earth will be around till the coming, and although we need to take care of the Earth, be assured that it will be around till after the end times. After the end times, a New Heaven, and a new Earth will be made. Heaven will decend on Earth, aka, heaven will be on earth.


Did you get the from the Book of Revelations in the Bible? I've written a report on that actually, and it could be interpreted in many different ways.

You could decipher it literally or metaphorically.

The literal-interpreters are even still broken down into 3 groups. Some think it already happened, some think it is happening right now, and some think it will happen far into the future.

The metaphoric interpreters believe that the whole book is just a metaphor for life (the conquering of good over evil, God is with you, etc.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:56 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm more scared of big rocks and black holes in space.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:13 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oh please no. Don't discuss Christianity on an internet forum. It gets really retarded really fast.

Anyway, an interesting opinion of an American on global warming (RealPlayer).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:31 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I say we use up all of the oil in the world. Now. Then, when we have hydrogen power we can sell water to the middle east for outrageous prices.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Just for the record, no one is arguing that the temperature of the world isn't going up in the short term.

The argument is over whether we (humans) are causing it or if it a natrual part of the planet's/sun's/solar system's/galaxy's/etc's cycle.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:23 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Its probably mainly us putting all are crap into the air like gas, motor oil, fires, power plants, ect.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:56 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I like your logic, d1s. icon_biggrin.gif Except it's not actually the Middle East purposefully causing this problem, the main problem is that demand has risen sharply (with the Iraq war, China developing, and India developing) while refineries continue to operate at 100% capacity. Simple supply and demand.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:23 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

War would suck without oil... Hyrdogen powered tanks, Hybrid Jeeps, man.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:25 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

We probably could live without oil. I mean we would need to find a different way of energy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:04 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:27 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What an insightful statement, assassin. I mean, human beings only did it for about 2000 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:50 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

2000? ha
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:55 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oil was founded way before Jesus, Cyan. sa_tongue.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:53 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Didn't they have oil lamps in the bible? I realize its probably not the same kind of oil, but still...
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