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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:47 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Quick question. Reply to topic Reply with quote

How many megs are in a gig? I'm debating on setting up a personal website, and yeah.. I just need to know.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:17 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte

a personal website will probably not need more than a gig
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:25 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Kilo = 1000
Mega = 1000 * 1000
Giga = 1000 * 1000 * 1000
Tera = 1000 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000

BUT

In computers, those thousands are really 1024.

So a gigabyte is 1024 megabytes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

He I always thought it was 1000 DOH!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:29 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

liars.. its 1024 tongue.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:30 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Psst, cyph: I just said that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:33 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

in memory (RAM) a gig is 2^30 bytes which is a little over 1 billion bytes while a meg is 2^20 byes which is a little over 1 million bytes. the ratio (2^30 / 2^20) is 2^10 or 1024 megabytes per gigabyte

in disk (harddrive) the companies got cheap and realized that they could advertise that they have more disk space if they defined a K as a thousand bytes(instead of 2^10), a meg as a million bytes(instead of 2^20) and a gig as a billion bytes(instead of 2^30)... so on disk a gigabyte is exactly 1,000 megabytes.

You were both right depending on the context.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:38 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hard Drive companies don't make the operating systems that report file sizes.

So, on disk, a gigabyte is exactly how large the OS thinks it is. That means 1024 megabytes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:01 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

we had to do some studying in computer science about that kind of thing, apparently some older computers used 7 bits as a byte sa_tongue.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:33 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Octal is useful in representing 9 or 6 bit bytes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:24 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Dr. Brain you are getting too into this...You know way too much...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

He just says that because you don't know any better, and in reality it isn't true, but like I just said you don't know any better so all this is, is a simple game of cat and mouse in which case you are the cat and brain is the mouse. The mouse lies to the cat, and the cat believes him. hahaha...ok, not funny but i felt like rambling a bunch of crap.....so um ya..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:28 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Steve the Impalor shall now kill you too bad he lied to you cause now you are fucked.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:32 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Who the heck is this "Steve" guy?

Yea, more useless spam. Congratulations! It's a boy!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:36 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Steve is a rhombus.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:10 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Because 8 is 2^3, octal is useful in representing any set of bits that are a multiple of 3. That's why Hex is used to represent 8 bit numbers, because 16 is 2^4 and 4 devides evenly into 8.

We want numbers whos placevalue can immediatly tell you what byte they represent, and octal placevalues fit between the byte boundaries when the byte is composed of a multiple of 3 bits.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:31 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yawn, everything is everything.. computers it's all about 2's 8's 16's 0's and 1's... mwah... okay i probably made no sense biggrin.gif but badda bing post_count++ for me..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:49 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Dr Brain wrote:
Hard Drive companies don't make the operating systems that report file sizes.


When they sell harddrives they don't say "Windows XP says we're selling a 50 gig harddrive". They just call it a 50 gig harddrive... and their gigabyes are exactly 1000 megabytes because then it looks like you're getting more space than if they used 1024 megabytes per gigabyte.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:26 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What the heck, Bak, we're not talking about buying a stupid harddrive! We're just saying how big a gigabyte is. (And its definition doesn't change even if people with lots of money lie about it.)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:11 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan~Fire wrote:
What the heck, Bak, we're not talking about buying a stupid harddrive! We're just saying how big a gigabyte is. (And its definition doesn't change even if people with lots of money lie about it.)



Bah... I used to think words were defined by how they were used, but I guess you're right Cyan~Fire... who cares if I'm buying a 50 gigabyte harddrive and want to know how much memory i'm actually getting?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bak wrote:
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When they sell harddrives they don't say "Windows XP says we're selling a 50 gig harddrive". They just call it a 50 gig harddrive... and their gigabyes are exactly 1000 megabytes because then it looks like you're getting more space than if they used 1024 megabytes per gigabyte.


Which is why when you put it in the computer, it says have 49 GB (actually, you get less because of file system overhead, but that's not the point).

You're absolutly correct about the HD people marketing with 1000 rather than 1024, but once it's actually inside the computer, it's all 2^10.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:28 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

damn those tricky marketing bastards
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