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SuSE Me measures good
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:01 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Smithy101 wrote: | Is this gonna be a fight or is this post gonna be done and over with? |
...this is Trash Talk and you of all people...sigh, just be silent, newb |
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Smithy101 Thing 2
Gender: Joined: Jan 28 2004 Posts: 428 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Sorry |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer
Age:38 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:48 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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SuSE wrote: | (and you, too, actually ) |
I will use the term "screen distance" for lack of a better term.
I will prove it mathematicly:
Given: Inches * Pixels/Inch (DPI) = Pixels
Given: DPI isn't a universal constant (unlike cm/Inch).
Therefore, pixels and inch cannot be measuring the same thing.
QED
Hence, you cannot measure a real world object in pixels without a conversion factor (DPI). _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:23 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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As soon as Akai is banned from posting, we will stop reminding him how much of a retard he is. _________________ 4,691 irradiated haggis! |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:28 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Xudikkor wrote: | Unfortunately, not everyone are as intelligent and knowledgeable as you are that they can also be a telepathic mind reader.
And if you are unwilling to help because they are not as great as you are, where as the entire purpose of this place is for the likes of you to educate the less gifted, then what purpose do you serve in a place such as this - a help site?
I would also like to inform you that indeed I did understood what you meant.
However as it would seem, you either have some high standards thinking that everyone are like you (and were they, then they would obviously have no need to adress here seeking for resolutions) as suggested above and/or that it is you who has failed to grasp the meaning of my own text.
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I am not an admin here. I was serving my own interests, and those of people who would like my help. I don't really care what you think I should do. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:29 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Hugs. |
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Smithy101 Thing 2
Gender: Joined: Jan 28 2004 Posts: 428 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:43 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Charmin ultra less is more.
Edit: So ekted you want someone to get banned here? Just curios... |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:47 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Of course not. I would like Akai to admit he was wrong. It's the only way we can all move on with our lives. |
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Smithy101 Thing 2
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:16 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Akai is SuSE right? |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Well, time to play the moderator again...
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.
Age:36 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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No, Akai and SuSE are my sex slaves. Hey, this is trash talk after all! |
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Smithy101 Thing 2
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:21 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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There goes mine with his shanky girls.
And solo ace..... I cant think of anythiing to say to you yet. |
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.
Age:36 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:24 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Threads should be temporarily locked when I'm composing a message for it.
I'm not even waiting for a reply from you, so whatever. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:31 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I'll see your babe, and raise you a better one...
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Smithy101 Thing 2
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:36 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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NOOOO WE LOST EKTED!!!! |
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ZiGNoTZaG Novice
Age:47 Gender: Joined: Jan 19 2003 Posts: 60 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:42 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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measure....THIS!!!!
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SuSE Me measures good
Joined: Dec 02 2002 Posts: 2307 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:47 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | Given: DPI isn't a universal constant (unlike cm/Inch). |
Hrmmm? Are you implying that the amount of screen pixels my monitor's using is fluctuating?
Dr Brain wrote: | Therefore, pixels and inch cannot be measuring the same thing. |
That's absurd. I used to think you two merely had incredibly limited scope of 'measure', but now I can tell it goes for 'pixel' as well. I think if you bother to look them up (I'm confident neither of you have [and I doubt you will at this point], or you wouldn't still be arguing your side) you'll, well, know what you're talking about. (at the very least regarding pixels that have nothing to do with screen resolution - if I had to guess at this point you'll never drop the resolution bit, even though you [doc] have agreed with me twice and ekted must still be trying to figure out how to measure himself in machs)
Dr Brain wrote: | Hence, you cannot measure a real world object in pixels without a conversion factor (DPI). |
You just said that you can measure in pixels again. Listen to yourself already. You can measure something displayed on your screen by its pixels and you can measure something tangible with pixels (although I would agree, this is not so useful).
Oh and Charisma Carpenter owns strange, odd-looking Russian women any day. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You can look at an image on your screen and count the number of pixels wide it is. But this number is not a unit of distance. It does not relate to any real world measurement except on YOUR screen. Telling someone that this image is so many pixels wide does not help them in any real world situation.
Here's the ultimate test of a true unit of distance: To convert from one unit of distance to another, there is a FIXED conversion factor. Inches to cm, miles to km, light years to parsecs. There is NO direct conversion from pixels to anything, because they are arbitrary. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:58 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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SuSE wrote: | Are you implying that the amount of screen pixels my monitor's using is fluctuating? |
Ever change resolutions? Whoops, that ruler on my desk that used to be 240 pixels long is now 450 pixels long.
Quote: | Pixel - The basic unit of the composition of an image on a television screen, computer monitor, or similar display.
Measure - Dimensions, quantity, or capacity as ascertained by comparison with a standard. |
Pixels can be used as a measurement, but only if you state what standard you are using. Since pixels, by definition, are the basic unit of a display, if you increase the display while still keeping the same number of basic units, the size of a pixel is increased. Thus if you state something is 50 pixels long here, over there it maybe 70 pixels long to someone else.
Thus pixels are not an accepted form of measurement when dealing with lengths of real objects. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:05 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Thus pixels are not an accepted form of measurement when dealing with lengths of real objects. |
And that is the context of the original debate over on ssforums...which Akai lost by locking the thread and continuing to post. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What
Age:40 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3614 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:14 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | And that is the context of the original debate over on ssforums...which Akai lost by locking the thread and continuing to post. |
I'm sorry, I don't read SS forums and had no idea. Yet another reason why keeping threads opened is a good idea. |
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SuSE Me measures good
Joined: Dec 02 2002 Posts: 2307 Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:15 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | You can look at an image on your screen and count the number of pixels wide it is. But this number is not a unit of distance. |
Just by saying that, it's apparent you have no idea what the word 'distance' means, either.
Mr Ekted wrote: | It does not relate to any real world measurement except on YOUR screen. |
It doesn't have to.
Mr Ekted wrote: | Telling someone that this image is so many pixels wide does not help them in any real world situation. |
No, why would it - pixels involve computers and digital images, not brooms and toilets. Nobody has disputed this. The fact remains that you can measure at least two different ways with what can be called pixels.
Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Ever change resolutions? |
Yes, indeed I have. What I haven't done is started to measure something in pixels, then changed my monitor's setup half-way through, then continued measuring. Without changing, of course, it's fine. (And again this only applies to screen pixels)
Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Pixel - The basic unit of the composition of an image on a television screen, computer monitor, or similar display. | Not that this particular definition proves much of anything wrong, but there are several other definitions on that page.
Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Measure - Dimensions, quantity, or capacity as ascertained by comparison with a standard. | Again with the many definitions. Also, I prefer at the very least Merriam-Webster over dictionary.com
Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Pixels can be used as a measurement |
like, thanks for the news flash
Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Thus pixels are not an accepted form of measurement when dealing with lengths of real objects. |
and once again, nobody said they were
So maybe you guys are just going blind...that'd explain why you keep repeating yourselves, keep contradicting yourselves and don't know what many words mean. |
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.
Age:36 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:21 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I'm going to make my proxy block GET viewtopic.php?p=24502 requests!
I CAN'T TAKE READING THIS ANYMORE.
STOP IT! |
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SuSE Me measures good
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:24 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | And that is the context of the original debate over on ssforums...which Akai lost by locking the thread and continuing to post. |
- That is not the context of the original debate over on ssforum
- I did not lock it, Mike did - your memory is as good as your brain (or your eyes, whichever)
- what you call a debate is you posting things like "OMFG you are teh retard I hope you're kidding, you can't measure in pixels even though you just gave Ancient Power some dimensions that were exactly what he was looking for which he completely understood"
- it's interesting to note that even now you seem to think I made some giant essay or something proclaiming pixels a unit of measurement to rival the meter
- I'd insult you now, but I don't want you on my conscience
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:49 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You are still a retard. Good luck with the fries and the drive-thru. |
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