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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:18 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: 594 Viruses Reply to topic Reply with quote

Found this thread at neowin.com
I thought it's interesting.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=182983

The author of this thread linked to a zip file which contains 593 viruses.
Now everyone is testing out their AV.

"How good is your antivirus?"

When I scan the file, my McAfee says this file is infected, but I don't know how many viruses were actually found...

What AV do you use, and what does it say? icon_smile.gif

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:10 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Guess norton is not the "best" lol There where 600 files in the scan....
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:49 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

alt+prtscrn for the love of gebus
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:14 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

this test doesn't mean much

It's obvious the archive wasn't assembled by a professional, so each file might contain more than one virus or no virus at all - or non-Windows viruses. Also, without a full list of the viruses it's supposed to contain, we can't know if each AV is doing a perfect job or not, because all AV's do it differently. Just because it says it detected less than expected doesn't mean your computer is at risk - just because it detected more than expected doesn't mean your computer is safe.

Anyways, here's my screenie from my old AV.

McAfee VirusScan v4.5.1 SP1:




455viren.png - 7.97 KB
File downloaded or viewed 8 time(s)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:06 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

SuSE wrote:
alt+prtscrn for the love of gebus


Beat me to it. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:38 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

SuSE wrote:
this test doesn't mean much


It's some kind of "geek extreme sports", as some one said at neowin icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:41 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bob Dole.. Bob Dole... Bob Dole...... bob dole.... bob... dole.... wrote:
[..]It's some kind of "geek extreme sports", as some one said at neowin icon_wink.gif

...and geeks like stupidity since when?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Didn't mean it that way icon_sad.gif

I guess I'm the only one who is really exited playing around with a zip file containing 594 viruses.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:40 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

heheh sa_tongue.gif

just a zip file until you extract it and start clicking things
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:05 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

oww.. AVPersonal only found 587 icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:16 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

you're not going to find a single AV out there that gets the exact number 594, so don't be sad - this is an extremely unprofessional way of doing it
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

SuSE wrote:
you're not going to find a single AV out there that gets the exact number 594, so don't be sad - this is an extremely unprofessional way of doing it
Agreed.


@ed: That's 98.8%, which is pretty good.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:34 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I think virus scanners should use better heuristics, using huge lists of virus 'definitions' is rediculous.
And since when could NAV successly disinfect a file?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:11 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Smong wrote:
I think virus scanners should use better heuristics, using huge lists of virus 'definitions' is rediculous.

make your own, get rich icon_smile.gif
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And since when could NAV successly disinfect a file?

got me - I had to uninstall it TWICE just to turn it off when I tried it
evil, evil program coded by 13-year-olds
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:31 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: bah Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have had my own problems with Antivirus checkers(NAV) so I stopped using them altogether(plz don't send me viruses) I never get any anyway(plz again don't send me any viruses)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:54 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Re: bah Reply to topic Reply with quote

Blindmonkey21 wrote:
I have had my own problems with Antivirus checkers(NAV) so I stopped using them altogether(plz don't send me viruses) I never get any anyway(plz again don't send me any viruses)

this I assure you - you ARE getting viruses

one day your computer is just going to stop working and you'll either have to get a good AntiVirus program and let it spend 4 days straight cleaning your computer or you'll have to just reformat

there are good free AVs - check download.com
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:22 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

One of the easiest ways of getting a virus is to open the email titled 'Postmaster failed delivery - Re: You've won some cash money' from address 'youaresogullible@some.government.url' with an attachment named 'winninglotterynumbers.doc.exe' in outlook express (not that I've done that of course).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:32 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: bah Reply to topic Reply with quote

my friend picked up an email at the school computers talking about how he has been to a bunch of illegal sites and to open the attachment to view the list. thank god the school has good firewall protection because the virus scan came back saying it was a virus. But I used to (and still do) have Norton Internet Security 2004. I got it for free off Amazon.com with rebates. But it was too protective and it slowed down the internet. So now I don't care if I get a virus I will just install the virus checker then uninstall it again. Problem Solved
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