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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:00 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I don't know how he does it or his buddy, but they can do all that in less than 2 minutes. They've learned the shortcuts. They can give themselves over 30000 of everything; 30000 of energy, instant recharge (with a delay of like 0.05 to 0.01 seconds), I think they can just make it so that they don't get hurt at all, etc.

If you "change freqs" with CE, the freq you join cannot hurt you. If your original team shoots at you, their bullets will hit you, but will not harm you. I don't know what cheating has to do with their anti-SSC revolution.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:48 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I found cheat codes to Grand Theft Auto, now I don't wanna play it anymore because I got tired of it. Continuum will become the same way.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:11 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

How do these memory hackers get past the memory checksums sent by the client?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:38 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Have you not played with it yourself? It isn't hard to do if you know what your looking for.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan, the memory checksum just checks arena settings, map and a couple other things (to my knowledge).
Changing the current value of your specials count and what not won't effect it.

@BD:
Shut up already. You're just as clueless as these self-proclaimed "hackers".
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:24 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The way I understand it is theres the arena settings which don't change, and then theres the "your current ship" settings which do.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:12 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bleh. I've used CE so I was just helping them understand how it works. You're to good for CE, so you wouldn't know. Go away. icon_mad.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:27 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Meh pitty hes a newb using someone elses tools.

There is some useful cont hacking that could be done. That might make the game better. Unfortunately useful hacking requires far more work and knowledge than making a cheat
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

@Distort:
I was refering to the constant arena settings in my previous post. Your current ship values aren't part of the checksum.

@BD:
You're exactly right. I don't need to cheat in this game -- I have *super.

@Doc:
Not exactly how I'd put it, but you're going in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:30 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

BD wrote:
Bleh. I've used CE so I was just helping them understand how it works.

By saying "it isn't too hard"? Oooh, what help.

@Cerium/d1stort: Yeah, I was more thinking of the wallhack stuff (modifying LVL?) but I probably just don't know how that works.

Also, I'm kinda wondering whether the admin at that proboards site that was spammed all over these boards is BD. Now wouldn't that be interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan, there is one wallhack i know. What you can do is:

Lets say your zone...uhh..SSCC ZOMG FUN has a funmap.lvl in pub. What you would do is go into your continuum/zones/SSCC ZOMG FUN folder, and open up the .lvl file with ssme. Then you could edit up to 4 tiles and then enter the zone. Then what you would have to do, is save the ssme file at an EXACT point so it overrides for you, but doesnt override before its recognized. If it does get saved too early, you will just redownload the zone file. If you save it too late, nothing happens and the next time you go into the arena, you'll re-dl it.

Of course me and vegito(ignore.txt) tested this out about 2 years ago, its hard to pull off and its only 4 tiles..but it does however work wonders in CTF zones. Thats the only way we figured out how to wall hack, and it kind of makes perfect sense.

PS: I dont think this method works anymore. And im not too sure if this post is more exploiting or educating...mm
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:09 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

LOL. That isn't me spamming those links. You know exactly who it is. MGB will ban him again when he gets on. I wonder how long it will last this time.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:53 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

@Cham: I think you were just lucky and hit a checksum collision or whatever it's called.

@BD: I wasn't suggesting you were the one spamming.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:31 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well cyan, we tested it on multiple zones on different days and i actually think it might still work today...havent checked it in some time now.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:50 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The other way to wall hack involved memory hacking your ship size. These are all old hacks tho.

Btw u might want to report the spam to proboards who are hosting that site. As its against there TOS.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:47 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

you can't change any of the original settings that were already in subspace without having checksum mismatches. however, all the settings continuum added can be freely changed without having to worry about checksums. the most abused one was already mentioned by doc flabby.

was priit being just sloppy with continuum or was it not possible to add the proper checksum check to subgame? could this be fixed in asss? or is it already done?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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could this be fixed in asss?

Acutally, if everybody switched to ASSS it would probably be a lot easier to secure Continuum, but I'm not positive.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:03 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan~Fire wrote:
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could this be fixed in asss?

Acutally, if everybody switched to ASSS it would probably be a lot easier to secure Continuum, but I'm not positive.


No, it really wouldn't be. PriitK has access to subgame, so if he really wanted to change anything in one, he could do it in the other too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:40 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Does he have access to subgame? I thought he just made all his changes through fix.dll.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:47 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

It amounts to the same thing: if he wanted to change something, he could.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:56 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Alright, I figured it would be harder to make changes through fix.dll because that's sorta hackish, but that's really just a guess I don't know how this stuff works.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:28 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

what the fuck. shut up.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:49 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That would be insightful*.

Trust me, I find you plenty inciteful.
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