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Agurus Server Help Squatter

Age:39 Gender: Joined: May 05 2004 Posts: 353 Location: SSCI Halo Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:02 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: Firefox 2.0 |
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Well looks like they out did IE again, built in spell checker  _________________ X-SSCI Halo CTF Administrator
"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too." |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I'm assuming you never played with the release clients? |
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The Apache BECAUSE I'M A STUPID IDIOT

Age:33 Gender: Joined: Jul 10 2006 Posts: 294 Location: High Wycombe Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:16 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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it doesn't seem any different to me. |
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Doc Flabby Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:34 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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the anti phishing is impressive. _________________ Rediscover online gaming. Get Subspace | STF The future...prehaps |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:51 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Doc Flabby wrote: | the anti phishing is impressive. |
Can't figure out why that is. Anyways, Firefox's method is very nice, as it downloads a local copy to check and doesn't send URLs to anyone. You can go into options and have it check Google for sites if you want, but it is by default set to only compare against a local copy of a list it downloads every so often. This is in Google's toolbar, which works on both Firefox and IE, so anyone can use it.
IE7 also does this too. Their method is more of a white-list type approach. (source) Tariq Sharif, a Program Manager on the IE Security team wrote: | What information is sent to Microsoft for checking a website
Phishing Filter does not check every URL on the Microsoft server. It only sends those which are not on a known list of OK sites or those that appear suspicious based on heuristics. If an URL is checked on the Microsoft server, first the URL is stripped down to the path to help remove personal information, then the remaining URL is sent over a secure SSL connection. The communication with the Microsoft server is done asynchronously so that there is little to no effect on your browsing experience.
So, for example, if you were to visit http://www.msn.com, nothing will be checked on the Microsoft server because "msn.com" and other major websites are on the client-side list of OK sites. However, let’s say the URL looked like this: http://207.68.172.246/result.aspx?u=Tariq&p=Tariq’sPassword, in this scenario phishing filter will remove the query string to help protect my privacy but it will send "http://207.68.172.246/result.aspx" to be checked by the Microsoft Server because 207.68.172.246 is not on the allow list of OK sites. As it turns out, 207.68.172.246 is just the IP address of MSN.com server, so its not a phishing site but this example should help you understand more about how Phishing Filter checks sites on the server. |
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z.alpha+ Novice

Joined: Oct 10 2006 Posts: 32 Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:42 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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the spell check is good enough for me to almost wet myself.
seems to run faster too, but most people probably wouldn't notice unless they really tax out their systems. |
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SamHughes Server Help Squatter

Joined: Jun 30 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Greenwich Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:03 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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It's nice because now it understands OS X's standard textbox keybindings. |
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BDwinsAlt Agurus's Posse

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Jun 16 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Alabama Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:45 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I kind of miss my old themes and extensions, but this is pretty nice. I don't feel like going through all my old extensions and modifying them. I love the spell check though! |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:46 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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BDwinsAlt wrote: | II don't feel like going through all my old extensions and modifying them. |
I never do either. So, open up about:config and create a new key called extensions.checkCompatibility and set it to false. Never be bothered by "unsupported" messages again.
Didn't test on Firefox 2 yet, but should work. |
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BDwinsAlt Agurus's Posse

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Jun 16 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Alabama Offline
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:14 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I looked all over for that in FireFox2. I didn't see it. Maybe there is another easy way to 'rig' it.
Edit: You basically create that in about:config to make it work, I see now.
I speed-read through your post, sorry. |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:56 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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FF 2 doesn't seem faster at all. At the beginning it did, but that was just my mind. |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:44 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I noticed it's a bit speeder for me because I don't need as many extensions as before (ex: tab features). _________________ Performance is often the art of cheating carefully. - James Gosling |
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:29 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I started using Maxthon, because I've actually seen it use less resources than IE6. And that's amazing. Plus, Maxthon has a whole plethora of features that I actually will use(I never used ANYTHING on FF, though I used quite a few on Opera), the only one that's missing is an X button on the individual tabs. I think I found a way to add that, I was just too lazy to do it. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:56 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Bah, Maxthon is just another one of those IE-based things. You're just using IE with some extra features loaded, I doubt it actually uses less resources. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:37 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Oh, I would doubt any browser's claim to use less resources than IE. But when I have 5 IE windows open, and 5 tabs in Maxthon open, sometimes Maxthon will be using less. Sometimes IE will. It really doesn't make much sense, and it's quite likely incorrect. But I've gotta say, that's my favorite thing about Maxthon, is that is pretty much is IE. It uses a lot of the same config files and reads and stores favorites in the same places, etc. Still, though, I use it for different things than I use IE for. Maybe if Maxthon and Opera were to come together and create a lightweight browser with lots of features, based off of IE, and a streamlined design, I would permanently switch. But, I really don't see it coming. |
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The Apache BECAUSE I'M A STUPID IDIOT

Age:33 Gender: Joined: Jul 10 2006 Posts: 294 Location: High Wycombe Offline
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:15 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | Bah, Maxthon is just another one of those IE-based things. You're just using IE with some extra features loaded, I doubt it actually uses less resources. |
i hate IE-based browsers.  |
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:12 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I have to admit, I don't understand why you'd want a spellchecker in a browser at all. What's it for, spellchecking your posts in forums? I mean, I doubt many people would like to quickly be able to point out all the spelling errors in a webpage. But aside from not needing a spell checker, I've always assumed people that spelled badly did so because they were apathetic about it. Now, though, FF fanboys are popping up everywhere acting like everyone's been pining for a spellchecker for years. Seriously...wtf? |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:00 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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forums, blogs, e-mail, chat rooms, hm everywhere. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:06 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Ever submit reports via a web browser? Most corporate users have to. Ticket requests for your server? Support questions to companies? Making an eBay auction?
You should have seen some of the emails I got back when I still allowed email support for Server Help. Half the battle was trying to figure out what they are even talking about, let alone try and get more out of them than "it doesn't work." Computers can do spell checking very easily, why not add it? Just an unobtrusive red dotted underline for words that are not in the dictionary. I used to have spell checking in these forums until a bunch of security updates changed things around too much that the old mod didn't work and I was too lazy to edit it to work again. |
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:07 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Ah, I suppose. But for most people on these forums, since so many people here aspire to be great programmers with great jobs or things of that sort, I'd think you'd want to fix the problem, not cover it up. I mean, few companies will hand out spelling tests as part of the application, but from my own experiences working at Verizon Wireless($$), bad spelling is only tolerated to a certain extent. For example, if you were working on something official that had to be presented, and your work consistently had to be checked, you'd be reprimanded, or the project may be taken from you. More often, though, it would just piss people off... I mean, sometimes e-mails that were sent out were hardly readable, and people just don't have time for that.
Who knows, though, maybe a spell checker will actually help people learn, if they have the mind for it. |
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z.alpha+ Novice

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:13 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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my spelling is horrible.
god bless the almighty computer. |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:29 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Meh...
It seems to me that spell checkers are for people who are unwilling to learn. They don't make a note to remember/learn how to spell something, because the spell checker will take care of it for them.
I guess for most people it tends not to matter, but if your job requires you to write to others on a regular basis, you probably should be able to write most of your document without the need of a spelling or grammar assistant.
Also, FYI: I don't use spell checkers and my spelling and grammer skillz are some of the best I've seen on all of the internets I visit. _________________ There are 7 user(s) ignoring me right now. |
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:55 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I don't use a spellchecker either, and I also don't know many people with better grammar than I(normally I'd say "me" just because it's more natural, but considering the subject of the sentence, I figured I'd do it right). That aside, I think some people just don't happen to know how to spell things right, and this may help them. I'm pretty sure the only reason I know how to spell so well is because I read a ton of books, and have seen it done the right way over and over. I'm thinking back to some of Dr Brain's old posts on MGB forums, and seeing if I can figure out what happened to make him learn to spell, but I don't quite understand. Jeez, it's hard to believe, too, that was really Brain? |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:13 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I have a desire to better myself. That's all that's needed. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:06 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Cerium wrote: | ... my spelling and grammer skillz are some of the best I've seen on all of the internets I visit. |
That's some goods grammer skillz yous gots. |
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