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Edify · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: altering the settings

is it possible to create a bot that will be able to change the settings in ESC+C without screwing up the arena during a game?

if u need specifics, its the "JitterTime" that i wish to change while people are playing.

Muskrat · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject:

I think this will work for you.

Edify · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:

erm, my computer doesn't open rar files. do u have a zip or something?

Muskrat · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:

Edify · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:

ok got it thanks.

Bak · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject:

have the bot message the server "?set door:doormode=0" or any settings you want to change
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CypherJF · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject:

rather

?set door:doormode:0
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Purge · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject:

Didn't know there can be two colins, and I think I doubt it.

CypherJF · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject:

Believe me I do it all the time w/ soccer ball counts ALL the time...

?set soccer:ballcount:0
?set door:doormode:255 all doors closed
?set door:doormode:0 all open

Edify · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject:

Muskrat · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject:

Oh, forgot to say, hit !jitter # to change the setting.
Of course, if you are sysop of the zone and want to change it, ?set bomb:jittertime=# works just the same.

Edify · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject:

Muskrat · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject:

You're sending it in to tw? Then perhaps twcore would be more suitable than mervbot. heh

D1st0rt · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject:

I've been told by DoCk> that MERV won't run on trench, so it would have to be done in TWCore.
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Maverick · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject:

Edify · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

Cerium · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:

Any bot can do this.

Keep in mind, bots are nothing more than programmed clients. If you can do it in continuum or with one bot core, any other is capible of the same thing.

With that said, aside from the fact TW prefers (or demands, rather) their devs to use the TWCore, why would merv _not_ run in TW?

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Btw, when you do get around to programming this, make sure you do what maverick said. Avoid using the ?set command in a bot, as bots have access to the 'set settings' packet, which will use slighly less bandwidth than the three message packets, and will only require the new arena settings to be sent to the players once, instead of once per message.

D1st0rt · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

Trench Wars doesn't run a merv core to run plugins off of, and when I try to connect to the dev server even as a sysop it doesn't allow a merv bot to connect.

Cerium · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:

I dont see how thats possible. As far as the server can tell, TWCore and MERV are nothing more than subspace clients.

Muskrat · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:

Does tw's server software come with some super Merv-blocking system?

Bak · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:

no, it just blocks all subspace clients... so unless you have staff, you won't be able to connect using any subspace client (including MERVcore or TWCORE bots).

Cerium · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:00 am Post subject:

Well... actually now that I think about it...

Doesnt Merv login without any powers, then use the access password in-game? Whereas TWCore uses the access password as part of the regular password.

I suppose if the dev server has an empty vip.txt, technically that would block all merv bots.

Bak · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:56 am Post subject:

no, or else a mervbot could never log into a continuum only zone(most of ssc)

an empty vip.txt wouldn't keep mervbot's out. They're allowed in with any kind of staff... vip is just one level of staff(one without any powers).

Maverick · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:16 am Post subject:

Cerium · Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject:

Umm? I dont know so you guys tell me..

Does merv use the access password as its logging in? IE: password*accesspw.

From what ive seen from the vip/sysop.txt files in chaos and from what Underlord has told me, Merv bots dont login with the access password, so they need to be on VIP. Once theyre logged in, thats when they use the access password.

If this is true, then technically speaking, not making use of VIP would effectively block any mervbot, as it would get blocked by the ContinuumOnly setting which is on in virtually every ssc zone.

TWCore & Hybrid on the other hand, do not use continuum encryption, but use the access password as theyre logging in, thus they doesnt need to be specified on vip AND sysop.