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Sercit 99.5% Optimistic

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Sep 12 2003 Posts: 352 Offline
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:21 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: Those damn tutorials.. >_< |
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Why is it that there is hardly any free tutorials on C++ worth reading! I've been useing google for the past two years and it has been good to me.. until i came to this subject! All the tutorials i have found are the same things! or jsut adds for some... I'm desperately trying to teach myself C++ But I can't get no where.. Help me.. I'm a newbi coder drowning in jargon!  |
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WarFan Seasoned Helper

Age:53 Gender: Joined: Aug 08 2003 Posts: 141 Location: Clinton, Iowa Offline
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:07 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Try kazaa and search for C++ for documents.. all kinds of good stuff or an eBook irc channel. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:57 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Could try the exact same way I learned most of it. Edit other people's files, and try compiling it. If it works, good. If it doesn't, try again. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:59 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
Where I learned all my stuff. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
Joined: Dec 03 2002 Posts: 771 Location: GNU Doldrums Offline
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:02 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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just to clarify, is this your first computer language...? if so i would recommend starting with a less bits-and-grit language to lead you in to c and c++. Obviously, some will tell you this is unnecessary, but i think it pays off, especially if its a RAD (Rapid Application Development) language...
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Sercit 99.5% Optimistic

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Sep 12 2003 Posts: 352 Offline
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:20 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Actualy i've been to cplusplus.com just recently and printed off a few pages to read while i tinkered. Very useful, only I couldn't understand a word of what i did afterwards. =\ Damn Hello world! and yes, I'm a complete newb to programing.. This is my first language, but I had hoped by learning a program that was used by a lot of others that where moderately versed in it i'd be able to find people that'll be willing to help me. so far it's worked to a mild extent.  |
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
Joined: Dec 03 2002 Posts: 771 Location: GNU Doldrums Offline
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:16 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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all i know is that i'd rather get the hang of using strings before i decided to look at bytes and MFC class implementations to get something other than the command line.
Sorry to say i can't think of a decent (and free) C-style RAD language at the moment. Python/Jython came to mind, but that syntax is *unique*, though useable.
Someone back me up here.... ? |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:18 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Java? _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Javas cool, but I personally started with Visual Basic (I know, it's not free). It's well documented and a million times easier than C++. But, of course, no where near as versatile.
Or, even better, if you have a graphing calculator, program on that. It's darn easy and you can make useful math progs in the meantime ( ). |
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Sercit 99.5% Optimistic

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:31 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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!! alright, i decided to go with Java, but i'm haveing problems finding java compilers.. I swear.. Google hates me..  |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:38 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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http://java.sun.com/
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
Get the latest J2SE JDK (Java SDK).
Then get TextPad. Trust me, this is the best Java editor. It has the java compiler and runtime linked in as tools, so all you need to do is Ctrl+1 to compile, then Ctrl+2 to run. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:41 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | Javas cool, but I personally started with Visual Basic (I know, it's not free). It's well documented and a million times easier than C++. But, of course, no where near as versatile. |
I also learned using VB, but I regret that. It's a weakly typed language, and it took me a long time to get over the bad habbits I developed using it. Not to mention the fact that Java can do everything VB can, and it runs on Linux. |
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Smong Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:23 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | Not to mention the fact that Java can do everything VB can | So you can access .dll's? |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:53 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Of course. Java Native Interface uses DLLs to run native code.
It stops being cross platform when you do, but you can always include platform specific DLLs for each OS. |
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Gender: Joined: Aug 12 2003 Posts: 140 Location: Everywhere you want to be. Offline
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:35 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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*learns Java*
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:56 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Heh yeah.
The only problem I have with Java is its inability to run standalone, you need to run it with a VM. You have to install VB dlls, but you can just run the programs like executables. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:13 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You can run .jar file like .exes once the JRE is installed. But ya, that is a drawback. |
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