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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:19 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: infantry server Reply to topic Reply with quote

hey this is kind of in a wierd realm but for those of you that remember or played the game infantry i was wondering if anyone had the files to create a server? free infantry is down and none of the download links i can find work. any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:37 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Looks like they folded

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:28 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That post sounds familiar to what's happening with SS.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:23 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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That post sounds familiar to what's happening with SS.

Not really, SS isn't advadable to play anywhere else. They basically went up against sony and lost. SS has the advantage of being fairly distributed, having a vast array of open source and closed source software which you can you to set up a zone with minimal effort. There attempt failed in that they only had 1 server. I think also SS has a far greater number of talented developers (code & media). SS is taking a hit from lack of development however, which is why its more important than ever we support one of the new client projects (i dont care which you support, just support one of them!)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:45 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What we need is a new client that is cross platform or make a different client that runs on Mac OS X and Linux. Linux doesn't have a lot of games like Continuum. Most people don't want to learn how to play with wine to get it working. With people like GeNe getting a Mac for Christmas meant no more continuum. Imagen the community if we all had a chance to play even if we had some other OS. Linux users would be all over that games because linux lacks a lot of gaming. Linux also has communities that talk about all kind of stuff. We could introduce the game to the community. I think instead of several people making their own client in their spare time, we all need to come together and get ONE client together. We need people that can work with a certain area. Like one guy who understands how the networking goes (does all the packet stuff) one for the graphics (could probably use most of the ones in the graphics folder), one for the GUI, and one for the menus/profiles and things like that.

This would at least work for the ASSS community. We could get ASSS to be more popular and have more players that play ASSS zones. More people use it. Couldn't we do what kirk did with subchat and get it to connect to a subgame zone? That post woke me up. I don't want ss to die.

Here's what we need to decide:
1. Which language to use.
2. Cross platform or several different platform specific clients.
3. Who is going to help
4. Who does what
5. If these efforts will work.

I'll do what ever I can to help.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:43 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

eh i also read another post saying free inf was coming back in february and they have a new site kinda up at freeinfantry.net which just says brb so who knows. i just wish someone still had the server files
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:11 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Is it illegal to host a FreeInfantry server in the USA?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:51 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I don't see an update for Continuum happening, let alone a whole new client.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:11 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AFAIK it isnt since they were giving away the server files on the freeinf website. i dont see why it would be illegal anyways, since your copying the copy of another game.

but my plan is to modify it to make it more of an RPG/RTS rather then the hack'n'slash it is now.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:30 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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I don't see an update for Continuum happening, let alone a whole new client.


People with that attitude are part of the problem. We need people who can make things happen instead of people who sit around waiting for things to happen. icon_rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:06 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

cross platform compatibility isnt easy to implement and requires coders with more knowledge, something that just might not be there. it is also vastly harder and would take a lot longer then something coded for just one OS. i know you have vision's for people using linux and Mac OS, but there is a specfic reason they are using those systems, and its not really for games.

he's not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic, because who really has time to throw into a game thats over 10 years old and who maybe only 3 or 4 people actually have the source to?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:12 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Every effort counts. Imagen what it would be like if everyone just gave up when the odds were against them. Bak has made efforts to create a client. It looks pretty nice, too. Look at all the solo attempts already. Imagen if they all helped out.


http://toktok.sscentral.com/ss-game.html

Get the top coders in continuum (who are currently working with asss) and create a client.

Maybe dr brain, smong, d1st0rt, bak, cypherjf, and maybe a few of these other guys who do things here and there.

Right now asss expands what the server can do. Imagen if we expand the client as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:19 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Doc Flabby wrote:
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Not really, SS isn't advadable to play anywhere else. They basically went up against sony and lost. SS has the advantage of being fairly distributed, having a vast array of open source and closed source software which you can you to set up a zone with minimal effort. There attempt failed in that they only had 1 server. I think also SS has a far greater number of talented developers (code & media). SS is taking a hit from lack of development however, which is why its more important than ever we support one of the new client projects (i dont care which you support, just support one of them!)


I wasn't even aware of any client projects other than Discretion. There was Smong's project, but that was just him. What other projects are there?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Doc Flabby's own project - The Continuum Project.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

imagine***

sorry it was bugging the crap out of me. it helps when you put out an idea that you phrase it eloquently and use proper spelling.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:36 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

goldeye's been working pretty hard to get Discretion compiling and working under OSX, which I think it does now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:49 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

@ball guy: Like proper capitalization? Don't correct me when your mistakes are far greater.

@Bak: Does it run under linux? I know FreeBSD is really similar to Linux. I would really like to beta or w/e to help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

BDwinsAlt wrote:
@Bak: Does it run under linux? I know FreeBSD is really similar to Linux. I would really like to beta or w/e to help.


Bak has been developing Discretion with linux compatibility in mind, but is developing it in windows and as such can't test it out in linux too often.
I don't have a linux box, only my mac, so I've set the project up with GNU autoconf. That means that it should work on just about any posix system with GNU make.

However, though it's compiling, my mac compilation still has a lot of features not working -- I bet it's the same for linux, but hope to test it out sometime soon.

So, the current state (heavily under development) probably isn't working on -nix/mac as it works on windows, but in the long run the client will work in any major os.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:53 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I didnt realize proper capitalization was worse then misspelling, because in the event of me not using proper capitalization you can still understand clearly and quickly what I am saying, whereas if you misspell it takes a moment sometimes to understand what you are saying because maybe you were going for a different word. In conclusion

i = I while imagen != imagine.

ps. instead of trying to get back at me, why try and not hi-jack my thread and start your own with the make ss on linux idea?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:06 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

BDwinsAlt wrote:
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People with that attitude are part of the problem. We need people who can make things happen instead of people who sit around waiting for things to happen. icon_rolleyes.gif


My attitude has nothing to do with it. I'm only reflecting the attitude of actual coders I've talked to. We got to be honest Continuum got off the ground because of a miracle. Several coders where in the right place at the right time, with no other projects in que and they got it done. There just isn't that drive anymore and let alone that many skilled coders, or scripters who have enough free time to do such a project.

Furthermore if there was, the majority of them wouldn't do it unless they had a chance to make something in return. Some have gotten greedy and rightfully so, they deserve to be paid for their work and I don't see that many geeks with that kinda spare cash laying around.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:46 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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I didnt realize proper capitalization was worse then misspelling,

"I didn't realize proper capitalization was worse than misspelling."

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, because in the event of me not using proper capitalization you can still understand clearly and quickly what I am saying,

"because in the event of me not using proper capitalization, you can still understand clearly and quickly what I am saying."

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whereas if you misspell it takes a moment sometimes to understand what you are saying because maybe you were going for a different word.

"whereas if you misspell, it takes a moment to understand what you are saying because maybe you were going for a different word."

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In conclusion

i = I while imagen != imagine.

ps. instead of trying to get back at me, why try and not hi-jack my thread and start your own with the make ss on linux idea?


"In conclusion, . . ."

If you leave out commas, everything gets jumbled together. You also misspelled words. This is trash talk. It's the internet. Get over it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:03 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

this is my thread. dont jack it. oh and btw missing comma's and apostrophe's is NOT the same as misspelling. nor did i actually misspell any words. i spelled then right, but i just used the wrong form of a word. so why dont you shut the hell up, and go crawl back into your pathetic little hole? at the very least get out of my thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

baseball43v3r wrote:
this is my thread. dont jack it. oh and btw missing comma's and apostrophe's is NOT the same as misspelling. nor did i actually misspell any words. i spelled then right, but i just used the wrong form of a word. so why dont you shut the hell up, and go crawl back into your pathetic little hole? at the very least get out of my thread.


Paraphrased: This is my thread. Don't jack it, but allow me to continue to jack it.

Anyway, before grammar jacked the thread Discretion unintentionally did so too. Your best bet for the inf software is to look around or ask on freeinf, not here.[/b ] Now let this thread become a discussion about the future of ss without your bickering.

For the record, lacking comma[b]s
and apostrophes is as bad as misspelling words, if not worse, because teh hmuan mnid can unerestnad wdors spleled porly. It has to stop and think about malformed sentences and incorrect words, which commas and apostrophes produce.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:15 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Anyway, when can I test this Linux version.

ballguy format: anyway i was wondering when i could test the linux version because i love to type run on sentences and forget capitalization.

Which ever one you understand the best.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:47 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

CypherJF wrote:
Doc Flabby's own project - The Continuum Project.

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But it's not a new client, it's a whole new game. And it will own. Why? Well, I'm working on it. That alone makes it the most awesome thing ever.
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