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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:22 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Notepad can't do anything serious. Lets take a typical paper, like the one I turned in last week. It has at the following components:


    Title page
    Table of contents
    List of figures and tables
    Footnotes
    Numbered headings
    Diagrams and figures
    Tables
    Page numbers (but not on the title page, and a different style for the preface)


Notepad can do none of those easily (and without page breaks, footnotes and page numbers are impossible). If you think it sufficient, then you're probably not going to do well in professional life, where formal documents are absolutely essential.

Now, you're about to say that they can use notepad to write HTML instead. I know a number of professors, and I can tell you two things: their programming/html generally sucks, and their free time is limited. Both these combine together to give you the fact that writing HTML is a waste of your time and their time.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

It doesn't have to be PLAIN text, it can be html. html would be perfect. I was really talking about my professors then. Which, on another note, even though they put stuff up in pdf format, it's usually still just text - they don't use any of its features - so there's no reason they should use pdfs. Now, one of my teachers just copies/pastes his notes onto an html pgae. He doesn't even have to know any html for that. Anyway, Brain, nothing any professor has given me in PDF has had any of those features, save for a title page. It's ridiculous to use pdf in these situations.

As for my computer, it can open pdf files if I had Adobe Acrobat, it just slows the whole thing down. Right now, when I hit alt-tab, I have two pages filled with my programs, and I'm using them all. That's why I don't want to use programs like Adobe Acrobat. Opera is the biggest program I use, and I'm probably going to get rid of it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:23 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm assuming you mean Adobe Reader, and surely a computer savvy user that knows how to format HTML well enough to write papers would know that there are other PDF readers out there...
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:31 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

CypherJF wrote:
Get a real PDF viewer like Foxit Reader.


This is a very slim PDF reader, give it a try.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:10 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

"It takes up more resources" != "My computer can't open them"

Anyway, PDFs do have their place but I stand by my point that they are overused.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:48 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan~Fire wrote:
"It takes up more resources" != "My computer can't open them"

Anyway, PDFs do have their place but I stand by my point that they are overused.


That's what I was saying. But apparently, as Brain says, since some teachers suck at HTML, it must not be overused. Thank you for showing me the light.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:53 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I really like pdfs. If you deal with many different people needing different kinds of documents, pdfs are a pretty universal solvent when you need something printed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:35 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

PDF is better for the tutorial Bak posted because it should be printed. The first time it was given to me, it was given in printed form, because you can't fit a PDF window, an ***** frame, and a DVI viewer comfortably on a 14-inch screen.

Also, if you're writing LaTeX, you're not going to want to be using Notepad, unless it's some kind of fetish. Notepad is literally the worst text editor in existence. (I'm using 'literally' figuratively, of course.) You'll want to use something suited for writing LaTeX. That editor would be *****.
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