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Animate Dreams · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:56 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yeah. I've heard Linux is supposed to be hard to mess up, but within my first week of using Fedora Core 5 I had to reformat 3 times because I'd messed something up. I can say from personal experience that it's VERY easy to break a Linux installation. So I don't buy that at all.

Cerium · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:54 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I've unsuccessfully attempted to install linux on 3 seperate occasions. It will take a day when I have absolutely nothing to do before I attempt it again.
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Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:54 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

What did you do or attempt that caused you to have to reformat? My first working Gentoo install is still running with lots of gcc and glibc overhauls. Anything broken in Linux can be fixed without reformatting. The only time you should is if your box is rooted. Even transfered the hard drive to its third motherboard and second CPU (different make even, Via->AMD). Hell, even transfered the hard drive over because the previous one was dying.

Doc Flabby · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:06 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

only time ive had to reinstall was because i was working on a remote server using ssh and messed up a kernel upgrade. It didnt reboot. luckly there was nothing else on the computer (was just at the beginning of setting it up) and it was cheaper/quicker/easier to use the auto reinstall operating system option rather than pay Â£50 /half hour to get it sorted by a datacenter tech...

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:54 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Ubuntu is a good linux distro for newbs and I assume it's also good for the experienced. Although I NEVER figured out how to install wine / continuum blah.. Someone mind helping me with this? The getcontinuum tutorial didn't work well at all.

Windows Vista? Never tried it, although I installed an early version of SP3 (wich i really enjoy). If you are offered a legal copy for beta testing or corperate/educational purposes, go for it, it's pretty nice.

I'm using Ubuntu right now but installing XP again soon. I have two 40 gigs with ubuntu installed, I'll just boot those when in need of linux and keep the 80 gig equipped with all my huge windows apps like 3dsmax and such.

But lets face it. WIndows = super-ez-u-dont-need-2-think-at-all, ever. And an herbaloverindulger like myself likes to "never-think-at-all" as efficiently as possible. So XP is a good choice, Although it's slow, it crashes, tons of viruses built specifically for it, it costs alot, ..the list goes on and on.

Linux = Washing your dishes by hand and making them spotless
Windows = a dishwasher that leaves a bunch of stuck on ketchup behind

As for vista, I'll install it when it's ready.

Bak · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:56 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

what part of the tutorial did you get stuck on?

http://wiki.minegoboom.com/index.php/Running_Continuum_under_Wine
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I also ran into problems running Continuum with Wine on Ubuntu. I think the problem is http://wine.getcontinuum.com/ doesn't have this little bit that the MGB wiki has:

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:20 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

As I got another new Ubuntu machine up and running again, I figured I'd go through the Continuum install steps to see if there is some weird problem that could have popped up in Edgy.

It seems as if the winetools page is down. Here is a copy of it: winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:13 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

i installed ubuntu dapper and tried to setup wine with continuum but really failed, also trying to play mp3's and broke my Synapsis Add/Remove thing.

This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.

(something told me to delete "##"'s from a text file and i think htat's why)
So now my synapsis is broken i can't do much (ill fix it i sooner or later) and i still can't play mp3's sigh..

and i got stuck when when it reported errors

(i think i was doing it all right)This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'.

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:00 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:36 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:39 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I'll be all set and ready to go once i resolve this error i get when i run synapsis/add/remove utility:

"This is a major failure of your software management system. Check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information: 'sudo apt-get update'."

Equally, pretty much any command in Terminal gives me this:

"E: Type 'Major' is not known on line 4 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
E: The list of sources could not be read."

So I'm stuck on this before i can do -anything- else.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:46 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Well, posting your specific /etc/apt/sources.list would let us fix it, but instead I'd recommend checking out Ubuntu Guide.org. They recommend you replacing everything in sources.list with the following:

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## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse

## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse

## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free
deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free
deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free

## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu
## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera, DesktopSecure and more to come.)
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main

To solve some of your other problems, I'd recommend looking into setting up Automatix, which is a fancy user made tool to setup lots of non-free things that Ubuntu may have legal problems with offering. Since you need to custom build Wine, don't install Wine through Automatix, but go ahead and get everything else you want.

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:54 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

thanks dude and i was told in some installation to open that file and delete all the ##'s... huh...

thanks i'm looking into automatix now

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:57 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

too bad i can't copy and past that becausause its for edgy and i have dapper. I think i want to install 6.10 but do i go for desktop or edgy?

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:58 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:17 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

yea i knew they were command lines, i was absent minded at the time and deleted them all, immediately realizing my mistake

well the update manager opens in it's greyed out loading phase then exits, probably due to the same file that is corrupting synapsis

KrynetiX · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:28 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

fixed synapsis, update manager works also, updating to 6.10

Animate Dreams · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:51 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

In answer to MGB's question:
I don't remember all the problems I had now, but the first one I had to reformat because there was no way to boot. I was tired of always having to go to terminal every time I had to do something(I had gui installed on this computer), so I switched to root once in terminal, and I think the exact command I used was chmod -R -777 /. Something like that. Anyway, you get the picture. Fedora didn't like it, and refused to boot at all. My recent problem with Debian involved me breaking something in the GUI, and it wouldn't start up any new windows, whether it was just a file explorer or a terminal. It could probably be fixed, but Debian is boring. One of my friends suggested I use it because he liked the package manager, and since he used it, he could help me out a lot more. But the package manager really didn't seem any better than Fedora's Yum, or what I know about Gentoo's package manager either.

And now I'm having problems installing Gentoo. Not that I can't do it, since I'm just copying from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml , but I don't understand any of what's going on, really. I'm sure it would be a great learning experience if I understood it. But since right now I really only need something that works, once I get it running I'll probably go back to Fedora. I have a little bit of an idea of how to set things up the way I want them in Fedora. So far, of all the Linux distros I've tried, the only one I'd recommend to someone who hasn't used Linux before is Fedora. I've heard Ubuntu is a good beginning Linux too, though.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:04 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Well chmod 777 shouldn't break anything (though I'm not going to do it on my computer to test). You sure you didn't try, say, chmod 000?

Anyway, try ubuntu. It's based on Debian, easy to use, and as MGB is always saying, there's tons of support so you can use it without knowing anything about Linux. And, uhh, the package manager isn't really a good reason for picking a distro.

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Animate Dreams · Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:38 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

phong · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:50 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I decided to install vista and just about everything went smooth. When you attempt to install it performs a compatibility check looking for things that would fuck up. The only thing I had it didn't like was Nero, which it made me uninstall before I could install vista. After that and about an hour-hour 1/2 later the install was complete which is a very long time considering my system specs (xp usually intsalled in under 15min). This was an upgrade installation and it turned out better then I had expected, with only a few bugs here and there.

As far as drivers, the only ones I needed were for my nForce chipset, and video which I downloaded the nvidia drivers from the driver beta site. After I install those I tried to play counter-strike:source and the graphics were all fucked up. Reinstalled them again, same thing. Also I was getting 10fps in subspace...

Well subspace was fixed by removing page flipping.. I dont get 1200fps like I used to (around 100 now), but you really cant tell the difference. As for source, I removed the nvidia driver and just used the one provided by windows update, and css ran fine.

Other notes, vista does use a ton of resources, which if you have them is offers nice features. Like multiple user logins, aero, etc. The most annoying thing was security warnings every time you installed/ran/pretty much anything you did. I took this out by editing the local security policy and disabled all the admin prompts. Bunch other other stuff but don't want to make this excessive.

Vista enterprise was 1.9GB, on dvd. I do believe they will have a cd version out but probably hard to come by.

phong · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:59 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:27 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject: