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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:33 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Will we be able to hack cars soon? |  |   |  |  
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				| To the people that know the internet well, and to the people who know a lot about electrical engineering (anything within within or near the focus of those topics): 
 Will we be able to hack cars?  And when I say hack, I mean have cars do things they weren't supposed to do in the first place.  Im referring to the Hybrids.  A slot of stuff in the hybrids are electric, including the engine.  Im not saying there aren't computers in cars already, but Im thinking about the future, when most(if not all) cars will be hybrids.
 
 The image that sparked this question was the power button on the dashboard of a hybrid(while watching the a documentary on the discovery channel).  It made me think of computers.
 
 http://john1701a.com/prius/photos/Prius_Dashboard_AtNight.jpg (MGB: Don't leech images)
 
 Thats just one.
 
 So I was thinking - since people figured out how to modify things like PSPs, iPods, Operating systems etc... then do you think some day people will be using thier own software to modify hardware in hybrids?
 
 I think Im going overboard with it, but its just another thought of mine.
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:26 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Some new cars are now stolen using a laptop rather stealing the keys as its easier. _________________
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:21 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| I dont see how you would get enjoyment out of steeling a car. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:32 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| There's a film called 'Gone in 60 seconds' that's about stealing cars. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:33 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| You could do that now, if you found some way to connect into the cars system you could do stuff like altering the fuel injection. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:35 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Some people have already hacked thru keyless entry systems so I guess that's a start. _________________
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:55 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				|  	  | Smong wrote: |  	  | There's a film called 'Gone in 60 seconds' that's about stealing cars. | 
 
 I've seen that film, but they are newbs now lol.
 
 You can't hack the radio frequencies like that anymore as they got wise to it  use rolling codes
   
 
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 Thats possible the manufactures know how to do it.  It just getting hold of the "black book" or service engineers guide would be the difficult part.  Using the same guide would basically help u steal them too so they arnt very easy to get hold of.   In new cars the computer basically controls everything.
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:01 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Yup pretty much. But dont you think they have ways to stop such acts? And yet again, whats the point in hacking cars because im sure they could trace your ass so easly and you would go to jail for multiple things. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| No point unless you have the connections to get rid of the car as a professional thief would have.  Remember they only catch the dumb criminals.  Quite a few new cars now have bonnet alarms to try to prevent this kind of theft. 
 People have been hacking (in the general sence of the word) cars pretty much since there were invented i just see this as something new to play about with...
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:15 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Quite a sad thought, Quan. 
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:39 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Well, since almost all cars nowdays come with an onboard computer. As to make cars do things they weren't initially meant to...install the proper wiring onto the key areas and then the appropriate software/programming onto the onboard computer, perhaps install a form of remote radio communication and you have yourself a ghost car.
 As for hacking...if enough control over the vehicle be handed over to the computers and their software will be sophisticated enough as well as preferably offer some kind of an API to the outside, then yes, the potential be definitely there.
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:04 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Stfu Apache. No one cares about you or what you say. All you are is some child who thinks he is "All that" because he post on a forum. Its a game, and you make it a competition. We are here for fun, you turn it into a flame. Take your head out of your ass and see the light. _________________
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					|  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:20 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				|  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | Stfu Apache. No one cares about you or what you say. All you are is some child who thinks he is "All that" because he post on a forum. Its a game, and you make it a competition. We are here for fun, you turn it into a flame. Take your head out of your ass and see the light. | 
 
 I guess the same could be said for you. By the way, it was an opinion/sugestion.
 Furthermore, take a look at the screen once in a while. This is Trash Talk, I can say whatever I want to say. So maybe you should be doing less typing.
 
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  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | "Hi, Im apache, I get my fun by posting pointless crap and trying to turn everything into a flame. I think im really cool cause I can post on a forum and make myself look like an ass." | 
 
 Isn't that flaming?
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				| Confess, you seem more of a hypocrite rather than a "holy person" as you say you are. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:38 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Did I say that I do not consider myself lower then others? I am stating that he needs to stop his pointless badgering. 9/10 of his post says something to the degree of "good, leave, die". I cannot bear it any longer. If I had the right to ban him, I would have done it the day he joined. 
 Ever since he "Owned OF", he has had this attitude. Lemme tell ya something bub. You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend? I feel sorry for you Apache. I pitty you.
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				| A flaming contest? Lets rumble, dude. 
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:13 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				|  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | If I had the right to ban him, I would have done it the day he joined. -------
 You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend?
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:36 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:09 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				|  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | Did I say that I do not consider myself lower then others? I am stating that he needs to stop his pointless badgering. 9/10 of his post says something to the degree of "good, leave, die". I cannot bear it any longer. If I had the right to ban him, I would have done it the day he joined. | 
 
 Okay, I would like you to find all my posts/topics (well, at least 90% of them!) that has the degree of "good, leave, die". You can't bear it? Well there is a ignore button you fucking ignoramus.
 
 
  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | Ever since he "Owned OF", he has had this attitude. Lemme tell ya something bub. You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend? I feel sorry for you Apache. I pitty you.
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 What hell is OF? Omega Fire? Listen here you bible-bashing ignorant piece of shit; Age doesn't matter one bit on the internet, I can talk shit or otherwise to say to anyone I want to.
 I don't need some kind of "permission" to talk shit to people like you. (You meaning... Stupid)
 
 From what you quote from the Bible, and how you claim to be the most sinful person on the internet - I actually pity you
 
 
  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | Purge: I have never said that I was a holy person. Not once. I consider myself to be one of the most sinful people on the planet, and there are billions of people on the planet.
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 Okay okay, whatever Confess. Most sinful person? You are so stupid trying to argue from that point you know.
 
 
  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | I only know of one "Holy" person, and that is Jesus Christ. If you consider someone to be "holy", then you are mistaken.
 
 Anyways, my rant is over.
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:15 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Um. For seeming to quote the Bible so much... did you miss the part where it said Jesus's followers are holy? Well, actually, that's pretty much the whole New Testament. I think you need to re-read that, and look up a definition of "holy". |  | 
	
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				| Apache, also know as lp_street_faggot and newb, same person that has been and still will be disliked for his actions, retardness, and imcompacity to do anything other then use words such as "You're stupid" "Leave this game" etc. Commonly found on the internet on the message boards known as MGBF and SSForum. Disliked by more then 7/10 of the people on both boards. 
 
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 Just one of the several kinds of post he has made, over and over again, with less then 10 words directing to the "leave, die, fuck off".
 
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 Did your dad anally rape you, then call you stupid the rest of your life?
 
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				|  	  | Confess wrote: |  	  | Disliked by more then 7/10 of the people on both boards. | 
 
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					|  Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:21 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: |  |   |  |  
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				| Then where did you get 70% from? |  | 
	
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