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Doc Flabby · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:08 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

i can view continuum's source in assembly - dont think that counts though....
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SpecShip · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:50 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

No.
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Protoman · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:03 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

A few questions now.

-Where does Priit live.
-What Street.
-What house #.
-Does he keep the source code on his computer.

SpecShip · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:55 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

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You know flabby, IF:
1. You were well versed in SubSpace gameplay/settings.
2. You had expertese in assembly and C++.
3. You possed good understanding and experience with the MS Dx SDK.
You could essentially take the disassembly of continuum and use it as a guide (in somewhat the sense of a psuedo code) to (re)creating the client.

But you aren't, so....there.

Priit ain't the best coder in the world, and probably isn't really THAT good either.
But the fucker's very intelligent and a fast learner and had quite a bit of experience through his years.
So you've got a lot of catching up to do, so to speak, if you want to be any serious about this.

Protoman · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:18 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I would never dream of being a programmer. Im all about making game models.

SpecShip · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:46 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

By models do you mean graphics, or physical models or social models or what?

Bak · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:51 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

physical models, obviously
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SpecShip · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:47 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I was never into that much.
Except the models I've made with LEGO(tm).
But there's a whole slew of these, starting from the early D&D miniature days, where it was considered respectful to come to a game with your very own custom made&painted character model.

Doc Flabby · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:17 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Cerium · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:59 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

What about Vista?
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SpecShip · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:21 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I think that with our current PCs, if you run vista you can't even run priit's client.
And to think Jeff's client could run on win95-retarded with a backwatered 486.

They have to make Halo 3 to sell Vista.
But how would they pitch us the $5000 upgrade cost to a new PC hardware (starting with 2Gig DDR2 chips)?

Doc Flabby · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:55 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

vista is going to flop.

why? Well its going to have WGA pimped edition.

Piracy is whats enabled windows to be sucessful. I think the ration of legal to illegal copies of windows is something like 10:1
Because it was so easy to copy it gained widespread use and it has stayed competatic with linux as it is essencially free. WGA is a pain in the ass in XP but at least its faily easy to disable, or you can use 2000

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In vista DRM and WGA are going to be built in.

dos ->- 3.11 -> win95 -> 2000/XP

you can see the real difference between those OS

how is vista > 2000/xp from what iv've seen so far its a step back...

Cerium · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:44 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I dont care about the DRM whines, or any of the other anti-ms fanboy nonsense. Its not going to be the epidemic you make it out to be.
I was refering to Open GL, and how it will be missing from/crippled in Vista by default.

It seems if developers want to capture the average nex-gen windows user, theyll be tied to dx10.

Doc Flabby · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:43 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

dont get me wrong i dont hate ms, I have used windows all my life.
Linux is a crap desktop windows owns it ez. Office owns open office ez.

i just dont like what they are doing now. they used to be about giving you control of your computer, and creating innovative programs. They seem to have been taken over by MSDN

OpenGL is not going to be any more crippled on Vista than it is at the moment on xp. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q285912/

The graphics card manufactor will provide replacement opengl drivers with the card. (which happens at the moment anyway). Alot of business related apps use OpenGl for graphics work such as AutoCAD...

Maverick · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:45 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Doc Flabby · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:55 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

i have used it, i never said i havn't, i've used windows more tho. i was being accused of being anti-ms, which i am not. , I have a duel boot laptop with linux, i've got continuum toi run on wine

My vps server runs linux.

Linux is good in the server enviroment. Far supieror to windows imho. Server configuration and trying to secure windows as a server is horrible.

However as a desktop (i've tried KDE and gnome) it sucks compared to Mac OS and Windows.
One feature that is badly lacking is a global clipboard. not being able to copy and paste between programs is annoying. Another problem installing programs has to be done from the command line. On windows you just double click. There is alot of work left to do to make linux as a desktop catch up with windows desktop. Oh and installing linux on my laptop took half a day, and some buttons dont work properly. Windows took a couple of hours, and it just worked.

If it was better more people would switch, the crappy UI and lack of user friendlyness is the main thing stopping people taking up linux on the desktop.

CypherJF · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:38 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

*yawn* sounds like a meh distro. I've installed Fedora Core 5 without any of those problems. Took maybe an hour, the same as Windows. There is a clipboard program, I forget what it's called off the top of my head but it sits next to the clock and records the last 5-10 (user-set) last things you copied so you can copy more and re-use them easier. As far as GUI installers, I know FC5 has made a GUI interface to yum but it appeared to be really slow, but you're right, most of the time it's console work, but it's not that hard. Some thing's you can install via the GUI through the package manager(s) like Apache, Eclipse, etc. etc.

There again what I'm talking about is a specific distro, I don't know what you use, and when you used it?
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Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:23 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

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What does any of this have to do with subspace code?

SpecShip · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:41 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Nix is a good workstation/administration terminal OS.
Windows is a good all around (Word/Excel/Autocad/Photoshop/MSVS C++/gaming/etc.) OS.

Bak · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:56 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

That's more of the software, than the OS itself. They both seem to do a fine job.

SpecShip · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:37 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Well, yeah.
I probably didn't phrase it too well either.
What I meant to say is that Nix so to speak specializes in doing heavyduty tasks and allowing more potential use of its features for more advanced users than the regular joe who just bought his first PC.
While windows is an (so called) easy to operate OS that's working well for the casual user who just want to draw something, input some data, write some script or play some MMORPG.
Windows is jack of all trades, master of none.
Nix is very mastery in granting the operator a complete control and access from an administrative perspective, which windows tries for the most part to cover and shield.

Dr Brain · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:02 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You still have no idea what you are talking about, spec.
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CypherJF · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:06 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Wow this topic quickly went off-topic, I'm now ignoring it.

Smong · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:10 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I'll try and get it back ontopic...

Isn't it about time someone went through the disassembly of subspace.exe and once and for all got the power ball physics documented in everyday english?