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Mr Ekted
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I am not attacking asss or anyone here, unlike you. I asked a simple question, gave examples, and all I get is grief. I really thought this was a help forum. I'll go elsewhere.
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I hardly think calling you a stubborn asshole is an attack. That's just who you are. I figured you'd take it as a fact rather than an attack. I appologize if that offended you.
We answered your question many times over. We also gave examples. All we got was grief from you. We really tried to help. I'm sorry that we couldn't.
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Mr Ekted
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A: Do you sell hotdogs?
B: We sell hamburgers.
A: Do you sell hotdogs?
B: They are kinda like hotdogs. They have meat and a bun.
A: Do you sell hotdogs?
B: If you change your way of thinking, they ARE hotdogs.
A: Do you sell hotdogs?
B: Why do you want a hotdog for? Hamburgers taste better.
A: All I want to know is if you sell hotdogs.
B: No.
A: Okay! Thanks.
B: Asshole. |
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No it's more like this-
A: Do you sell hot dogs?
B: I'm not sure. Can you describe a hot dog for us?
... 10 minutes of trying to answer that later...
A: Do you sell hot dogs?
B: No, but we sell hamburgers. They are more filling than hot dogs.
A: I want a hot dog.
B: Why do you want a hot dog?
A: They're made of pork. I only eat pork. I want a hot dog.
B: Okay, maybe hamburgers aren't for you even though they can be good for you.
A: You suck because hamburgers aren't made out of pork.
B: No, you just have a stick up your ass.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Can ASSS do this? |
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OK, I will admit that I did not read every single word in this thread (there was too much junk), but I think I got everything right.
| Mr Ekted wrote: | pub: bottype1 modules: A B C D E F pub.ini
scrim: bottype2 modules: A B C D E scrim.ini
league1: bottype3 modules: A B C D E G H league.ini
league2: bottype3 modules: A B C D E G H league.ini
league3: bottype3 modules: A B C D E G H league.ini
1. I can stop the pub bot, including all its modules, change its module list and restart it without affecting any other bot.
2. I can change a setting in pub.ini that will affect the behavior of module B in pub, but will not affect any other bot.
3. I can change a setting in league.ini that will affect the behavior of module C in all league arenas only.
4. I can do all of the above without unloading modules completely, and without recompiling. Arenas are not hard-coded in modules or in INI files. |
I don't think you need a custom module or anything to do what you want, as long as you stick with certain arena names. Is this what you're against, calling it hard-coding? If so, I don't see why you're against it. What's wrong with having league functionality in arena "league" and scrim functionality in arena "scrim"? If it's because you want to dynamically switch arena types, just use ?send. That's definitely one benefit of ASSS.
1. As already stated, arena attaching will do this easily.
2. arenas\(public)\arena.conf will only affect public areans.
3. arenas\league\arena.conf will only affect league arenas.
4. True with ASSS.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Can ASSS do this? |
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| Cyan~Fire wrote: | OK, I will admit that I did not read every single word in this thread (there was too much junk), but I think I got everything right.
I don't think you need a custom module or anything to do what you want, as long as you stick with certain arena names. Is this what you're against, calling it hard-coding? If so, I don't see why you're against it. What's wrong with having league functionality in arena "league" and scrim functionality in arena "scrim"? If it's because you want to dynamically switch arena types, just use ?send. That's definitely one benefit of ASSS.
1. As already stated, arena attaching will do this easily.
2. arenas\(public)\arena.conf will only affect public areans.
3. arenas\league\arena.conf will only affect league arenas.
4. True with ASSS. |
I'm not against anything. I am not attacking asss, or grelminar, or anyone who uses it. I was merely attempting to poke and prod at asss to find out how it works--howeasily pbot concepts fit into it. Having gotten some answers here, and some feedback from the HZ devs, and having read the documentation on making modules, and reading some of the asss source code, I now understand a little better what kind of migration we need. Some of the things pbot does will be rather difficult to "modularize", and some will be easier than the original.
For now, we are living with bots so we can get to 100% as quick as possible. However, we are still in the process of fixing bugs that have not been flushed out in HZ. So far I believe there have been 5 of them. I believe that once PB gets over a certain hump, that other former SSCX zones will quickly follow. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think Ekted wants an answer, not some hack workaround.
ASSS doesn't emulate the client/server model of bots. It does not have any concept of a group of modules (aka a bot) that has it's own settings (aka league.ini) that are not related to the current arena in anyway except for what the operator tells it to use. |
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Cyan~Fire
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Right. I was just saying that the arena system is just as good as (if not better then) the bot system.
@Ekted:
| Ekted wrote: | | ASSS just wasn't designed to be as useful as pbot. |
That seemed pretty "against" to me, though I did not mean "against" in the way you took it. Perhaps I should have used "dislike". |
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