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Which is easier to use and set up? ASSS or subgame?
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Which is better? ASSS or subgame?
ASSS
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 60%  [ 9 ]
Subgame
26%
 26%  [ 4 ]
Both are about the same difficulty
13%
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject: Which is easier to use and set up? ASSS or subgame? Reply to topic Reply with quote

I would like mostly facts. Some opinions could be added like if i don't have a certain skill, subgame/asss will be harder to use.

So which is it?
ASSS?
or SUBGAME?
my vote is subgame because the conf settings on ASSS is too confusing
Even after going through the tutorials.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I found setting up ASSS easier for the first time than setting Subgame up for the first time.
Currently I'd say Subgame would be easier to setup, just because there's less to configure.
You shouldn't compare these two by how easy they are to setup since both are very different from eachother.
I like ASSS more than Subgame because it makes it easy to add functionality to the server.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ah, subgame is steady and true.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

ASSS, cuz thats how I like it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

running an ASSS server invovles double clicking a .bat file, while running a subgame server requires editing your server.ini, starting a billing server, and then running an executable... why people would vote subgame is beyond me
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

ASSS is much easier to setup. But Subgame is easier to use for people who are new to servers and such. Start with subgame and then work your way up to ASSS. The conf files are easy to setup, plus they are split up in a logical way with ASSS, so I would think setttings would be easier to change with ASSS.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

wow...
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Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1139

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1141

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1141

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1143

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah, I noticed that too.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Its the same thing that was talked about earlier, it has to do with the end date. I'm too lazy to find the topic it was discussed in tho
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

For me, ASSS was easier, but most likely (as 50% said) because I'm now rather used to that kind of stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

also, i dont know C++. How could i work with the modules that way?
bots dont use C++ (unless you're making one). all you have to do is edit the .ini file
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

If you have the module compiled, add it in the modules.conf without the comment ";;".
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

rootbear75 wrote:
also, i dont know C++. How could i work with the modules that way?
bots dont use C++ (unless you're making one). all you have to do is edit the .ini file

What you said there is messed up.

Bots and their plugins (except for a few) are written in C++, and ASSS modules are written in C.
Indeed, "all you have to do is edit the .ini file", but that would be the same for ASSS modules too, this has nothing to do with C or C++.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

You don't need to know how to program to run asss. You just need to be capable of double clicking.

1. Double click the archive to extract it.
2. Double click asss.bat.
3. Double click continum.
4. Type this in:
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ctrl + z, alt + c, "blah", alt, "127.0.0.1", alt, "5000", enter, enter


Steps 3 and 4 you have to do with subgame as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Alt? Don't you mean tab to switch between fields?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Double clicking is tricky
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan~Fire wrote:
Alt? Don't you mean tab to switch between fields?
Uh yeah that's what I meant. I got a bit carried away with the crispitityness of the alt + c.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Smong wrote:
4. Type this in:
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ctrl + z, alt + c, "blah", alt, "127.0.0.1", alt, "5000", enter, enter



wtf?
that made no sense whatsoever.

Be nice if you could do it like Section:Variable or w/e.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

btw, that last post was me... forgot to log in...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

apparently you forgot step 3, root
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Maverick wrote:
wow...
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Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1139

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1141

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1141

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1143

Fixed. Found that the crappy mod I put into place that appears on line 1141 assumes that the last SQL connection is for the forums, and doesn't use the standard $db connection. This problem occured because the ASSS Wiki link on the top uses a one-time SQL connection to the Wiki database to figure out how many topics recently changed since your last visit.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

what language is that?
javascript? it cant be HTML
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

php API-ing MySQL?

I have no idea what I just said...
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