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D1st0rt Miss Directed Wannabe

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: Virus Disassembly |
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Found this on slashdot,
http://rozinov.sfs.poly.edu/papers/bagle_analysis_v.1.0.pdf
Its pretty useful in explaining how assembly works for those who don't know, and also goes in depth about counter-virus techniques _________________
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:13 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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holy shit that piece of crap almost shutdown my computer
I fucking hate PDF's
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Gonna save that link for when I'm bored.
SuSE wrote: | I fucking hate PDF's |
And, haha, yeah, they're very "PORTABLE"!
Well, I know what they mean by calling it portable, but it's not portable in the way it should be.
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:34 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Portable as in it doesn't require Microsoft Office 2018 ($1000+) to view. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:37 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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.txt all the way.
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:57 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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txt or html, gebus anything but really old and gigantic PDF's
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:13 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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WTF is that? Computers 101 on how to combat a virus? _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
Wise men STILL seek Him.
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:59 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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SuSE wrote: | holy shit that piece of crap almost shutdown my computer
I fucking hate PDF's |
Adobe Speed Up
Quote: | http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/
Adobe Reader SpeedUp is a simple application that was created to help make the loading time of Adobe's Acrobat/Reader software bearable for everyday use. AR SpeedUp only needs to be used once (a process taking only a few seconds) and then your 'Reader will be transformed forever. There are also some tweaking options available. "w00t!", as the young kids say. |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:20 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I already have almost all the plugins disabled.
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50% Packetloss Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:51 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Thanks Distort.
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Smong Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:53 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I suppose the only good thing about pdf is the viewer has anti-alias fonts, it renders faster than postscript, it supports a nested table of contents (although I rarely see manuals and ebooks using this feature) and you can embed images in it.
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:57 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Smong wrote: | I suppose the only good thing about pdf is the viewer has anti-alias fonts, it renders faster than postscript, it supports a nested table of contents (although I rarely see manuals and ebooks using this feature) and you can embed images in it. |
...so it's really slow-loading HTML without antialiased fonts?
Font support online is bullshit, sigh.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:03 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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maybe.....
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Smong Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:04 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Are you saying html is postscript? Because some of my teachers are distributing their notes in .ps files and I can see the progress meter trying to load about 20-30 pages in 5 seconds, that's only slightly faster than the start-up time of firefox.
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:51 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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No, I'm saying postscript and PDF are both inferior to HTML.
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:30 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Wrong. HTML is for displaying webpages. HTML layout is quite limiting.
PDF and PS are typesetting formats. They exist for the puprose of displaying text, symbols (that HTML cannot display) and pictures EXACTLY where the author wants them on the page.
You cannot write a professional product manual in HTML. These, however, *are* frequently written in PDF files.
I use PDF files for displaying math symbols. I'd like to see HTML try to display "The inverse Laplace transform of the definite integral from s to infinity of one over rho". That's something that's quite possible in TeX and PDFs (postscript too, but I don't work with it).
HTML and PDFs serve very different functions, and they are both very good at what they do. HTML does web pages. PDF does typesetting. HTML is inferior in typesetting. PDF is inferior in hypertext display.
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:22 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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For example:
drbrain.pdf - 17.83 KB
File downloaded or viewed 31 time(s)
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:37 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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ya brain is right about the PDF... it's a desktop publishing tool allowing you to set objects, etc. easily...
However, I'm now uneasy knowing that there is a PoC of having PDF read files off of your harddrive, :/ _________________ Performance is often the art of cheating carefully. - James Gosling
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:25 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | You cannot write a professional product manual in HTML. These, however, *are* frequently written in PDF files. |
Wrong. Most are written as some form of TeX, and then just outputted to what ever formats the author wants.
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:30 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I doubt that very much. I'm sure a few are, but I believe the rest are written in some kind of PDF GUI.
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:14 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I worked for a math textbook author, there were several stages of manuscripts. Early, rough drafts where done w/ MS Word + Equation Editor, they would then be typed up onto quark (if im thinking right) which then would be converted to JPG and PDF files.
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:54 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Book publishing is not exactly what we're talking about.
I'm saying if you're motherfucking giving people information via a motherfucking website, why not fucking make all your information available ACTUALLY in the website instead of being a lazy motherfucker that uses PDF's instead.
I mean there are fucking PDF to HTML convertors out there if you're so fucking retard you can't use a motherfucking WYSIWYG editor. Gebus...lazy fucking twat-ass bitches.
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:11 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I'm just saying that PDF's are used simply for the fact that not all characters can be converted to HTML.. Meh! Or w/o the need of special font's, and/or plugins. Hence the MathML - www.w3c.org
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:17 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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CypherJF wrote: | I'm just saying that PDF's are used simply for the fact that not all characters can be converted to HTML.. Meh! Or w/o the need of special font's, and/or plugins. Hence the MathML - www.w3c.org |
...you just contradicted yourself
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