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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:19 pm    Post subject: Is it bad... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Is it bad to make someone a sysop immediately? This person says he's been a Smod in Trench Wars and a Mod in Gauntlet and he wants to be a Sysop in my zone to do things such as coordinate events, and hire referees. I have a feeling that the person will cause some mischief. Does this happen often and what could that person do?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

They can modify all files on the server. Change server/arena settings, edit mods, smods, sysops. I think it might even be possible to upload a modified subgame and do *recycle to cause to be executed some code that they wrote, which would give them complete access to the machine, blocking you out in the process.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Subgame refuses a bunch of file extensions to be uploaded/deleted(/downloaded), .exe, .dll etc.

Anyway, who is it? icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

His name was Airborne Division. He said he was part of the 101st Airborne Division at Iraq. And that he was on his laptop there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hmm'k, don't believe him.

What he says about modship in t3g is incorrect, if you're still not sure, go ask there.

Why would he even *need* sysop for such crappy jobs anyway?
Even a lowly moderator could coordinate events and hire referees.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Once a TW ER got sysop in one of my hosted zones and randomly *super-ed whenever he got killed for revenge. You make the decision.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Wow. Airborne sure seems to get around...

EDIT: Just got the complete log of it
2 Days Ago
Airborne Division> who owns this zone?
Charcoal> dr bra
Charcoal> unfortunately dr bra forgot to install ?owner
Airborne Division> is dr bra every on?
Charcoal> hes on sometimes
Charcoal> but usually hes... 'doing' other stuff
picano2.0> who need owner when theres ?listmod..... but i wish it showed offline staff
P Airborne Division> who do i contact if i wanna become staff?
Airborne Division> .buy ship7
Airborne Division> how to you enter?
Darkflare> read the F1 help
T Airborne Division> who can i contatc to become staff?
Airborne Division has $1000 in their account.
T Darkflare> how long have you played the zone airborne?
T Charcoal> send a application to 'siaon@hotmail.com'
T picano2.0> you jsut started here and you want staff? no
P picano2.0> ?qip
There was 1 match to your query.
NAME IP MACID DAYS AGO
Airborne Division xx.xxx.xx.xx x 0
T Airborne Division> i didnt just start
Airbone has left the arena.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

He was never a mod here (T3 The G)
And Picano's log looks pretty pathetic.
I wouldn't give him anything, but knock yourself out
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Pathetic in what sence?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heh as in what he was doing was pathetic, not you.
Picking a random zone and asking for staff before even playing it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That's what I did, accepted in t3g within 5 seconds!

Nah, heh, yeah I agree, just ban him instead of even wasting time on him. icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Like i said, i was looking for a new zone to start up, but i didnt know it wasnt a new starting zone, i just downloaded the new zone list from about a month or two of not updating it, so i didnt have much of a way of knowing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Whatever you've done, you shouldn't have said you were staff at other zones, since you weren't.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Wasn't new? My zone isn't even hosted yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hahaha, the patheticness didn't stop there, it's even getting worse! icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

He was talking about my zone I believe (Hyperspace) but... I can't see how a zone averaging 20 pop and on ssc billing can be new icon_rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

JaqMs14 wrote:
Wasn't new? My zone isn't even hosted yet.

Meh im not planning on making a zone anytime soon i mean i can but i dont feel like it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

$20 says you can't smithy...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

lol Bak
Ok Jaq, dont hire him he's obviously bs'ing you, I wouldn't hire anyone you dont know as sysop immediately without giving them a trial at a lower position, and if it doesn't seem right, go with your gut instinct, if they abuse as sysop i'd ban them just to make it easy for you, and definately make sure you backup all your server files, icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

actually dust, what you fail to realize is that i have many alias that wouldnt come up in an alias check, considering I have gotten a new computer within the past 3 years..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What was your alias when you were on T3G staff then?

Prove what you say.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

alias checks checks IP addresses too, as well as linking aliases used with the same macID / permissionID. So unless you changed machines exactly when you changed ip addresses (ISPs) and never logged on your new alias on your old machine or your old alias on your new machine, the aliases will be linked
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Aren't you kind of busy flying airplanes or something to be running around as sysop?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Is it bad... Reply to topic Reply with quote

JaqMs14 wrote:
Is it bad to make someone a sysop immediately? This person says he's been a Smod in Trench Wars and a Mod in Gauntlet and he wants to be a Sysop in my zone to do things such as coordinate events, and hire referees. I have a feeling that the person will cause some mischief. Does this happen often and what could that person do?


Answer: Yes, it's bad to hire someone you don't know who hasn't helped the zone at all (or played the zone at all). Make them work for a while without zone powers. Get to know them. THEN and ONLY then, make the decision to hire them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bak wrote:
$20 says you can't smithy...

? $20 says he cant what?
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