Nickisis wrote: |
Long story short, a month or so ago, 4U made me agree that in order for me to continue working on the bot, I had to send him the source code. Well, I sent the source code, but I sent bogus source code, all the numbers are changed, stuff out of order, etc... Basically, it's my bot, and I didn't want anyone having working source code, cause I didn't think it was fair.
In the end, I realized I was basically a donkey with a carrot dangling in front of me. If I ever sent them the real source code, they could basically make me do whatever they want cause if not they could just say "you're fired" and take my source code and run. Sorry, but I spent 4-5 months of my life working on this bot, it is my source code, no one else's. |
BlueGoku wrote: |
Oh boy. When you gave me the source code a few weeks ago I promised I wouldn't give it out to anyone and that we wouldn't hold it over your head and fire you unless you snapped again. To this day I have held that promise. The source code is still in my inbox, I didn't even save it on my computer. No one else has the source code either.
You not only lied about sending me the correct source code, you also put in multiple backdoors in the bot that's up on the server. I have taken the bot offline, I've taken your bot's sysop away and I'm contemplating banning you from HZ for this. For now, I'll leave you with this: You're fired. |
BlueGoku wrote: |
If you think I'm going to allow his bot to run on the server with all those backdoors you're mistaken. I've been supporting football from the beginning, helping out with the administrative things and such. The football ops and I made a deal with Nickisis that if he wanted to continue working on the project he would have to send me the source code (because up until that point he was basically dangling it infront of us, not to mention the night before he "quit" and took his bot offline). He agreed and I never once questioned him. I trusted he did the right thing and in return I never even so much as opened the source code, let alone send it to someone else. It was part of the deal that he would not be fired unless he snapped again or did something similarly outrageous. I'd say lying to us in that manner and putting multiple backdoors in the bot constitutes the latter.
You can blame me all you want, but the fact of the matter is we had a deal and he broke his end of the bargain, right from the beginning too. P.S: The only person struggling for power is Nickisis. I had to practically force 4u to have sysop. Nick, on the other hand, was afraid he would lose his control over football if he sent me the correct code. P.P.S: I just want to emphasize here that there are backdoors in the bot allowing Nick to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. I don't see any way I could ever possibly leave the bot running on the server. |
Nickisis wrote: |
3) My backdoors do nothing to harm the game, the people, or the server. They were also put in as a precaution in case something like this happened. I have never once abused my powers in football, not in pub, not in league, not anywhere, and I had the power to do so. It's just not my style. People are throwing around the word "backdoor" because it is a word that makes people think of viruses and the like, all my backdoors allowed me to do was control the game. |
Nickisis wrote: |
Sorry about the formatting on the stats, thats' just how it comes out when I cut and paste. |
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Security - Disrupting or attempting to disrupt the security of the
billing server, any SSC zone or server. Examples include flooding servers or players, spreading knowledge of how to disrupt security, unauthorized access to the billing or zone servers, stealing passwords, impersonating SSC Zones, or distributing confidential information about servers or players. Maximum 30 day first offense net ban for a threat to disrupt security. |
50% Packetloss wrote: | ||
Bak, he can release closed-souce plugins. But when you make plugins for a specific zone, you should do the honorable thing and give them the source code if they ask for it.
I would STRONGLY recommend that NO ONE use his bot. It is clear that nickisis is a lier and sounds fairly paranoid. I find it very hard to believe that he is a competent programmer if he needs 20k lines of code (ASSS probably has less) to write a bot that really isn't all that amazing, plus his behavior hints at his immaturity and lack of professionalism. I think its safe to assume that he is another copy/paste script-kiddie, only an idiot would place back doors in his code. I'm surprised that he didn't get net-banned for life, he placed a zone's security at risk.
If he hasn't been banned from SSC already, it should be done so that he can't repeat his behavior. Nickisis, you fucking disgust me. |
Smong wrote: |
Maybe you guys know something I don't, but from this thread it seems you are being harsh to this guy. HZ accepted him back for a start so he must be ok. It seems you are overrating backdoors, from nickisis description they just control the game. So are my ?elim start|stop|status command parameters backdoors too?
I just checked asss/src/core, it has 27k lines. Open source software still has backdoors, for example look at mozilla firefox with all those security vulnerabilities it has, if 8% of people are said to use it then it won't be long before headline exploits come out for it. |