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Anonymous - Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:59 pm
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Well seeing as the sample map that comes with my ctf module might not open with SSME I'm posting the version of LAME (Another Map Editor) that I used to make it with.

Stuff that I should say according to the sticky:
LAME is in early development stages and it's written in C.

What it can do some other editors can't:
* View .hlp files
* View version 2 regions
* Allow painting of arbitrary tiles

What's missing:
* elvl data is not written when saving
* You can't add or delete regions
* Fancy paint tools

Some controls you should know:
* Similar look and feel to SS
* Ctrl + left click to pick up tile
* Right click and drag to scroll
* F4 to toggle the tile palette (the pacman tile is the one that eats weapons)

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:15 pm
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Umm, your project seems to conflict with a more popular project of the same name.

Anonymous - Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:18 pm
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I don't care. Is there a legal problem?

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:24 pm
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Its more to deal with when talking about the project, people will easily confuse it with a much more popular project. Also, googling for it won't return it at all.

After playing with it a bit, it does look very nice. A problem is when you resize the window, it doesn't show more of the map. Since you mentioned this uses SDL, it shouldn't be a problem at all to port to Windows. If you need some assistance, we are here to help.

Dr Brain - Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:28 pm
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Name it ASSSKISS or something.

SuSE - Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:03 pm
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LAME also doesn't make sense... did you mean (Linux) Another Map Editor? Even if that made sense, it'd be ...not good.
(sidenote: LAME [mp3 encoder] must be one of the dumbest acronyms in the giant see of dumb acronyms there are)

But ya, like Doc said. We should make it a point to ensure that eventually all ss/continuum-related apps have x-rated names.

So: CLIT, ASSS and PUSSY for Portable Ultimate SubSpace Yeti...dur

SuSE - Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:06 pm
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SubSpace Level Or Other Gunk Editor

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:15 pm
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SuSE wrote:

LAME also doesn't make sense... did you mean (Linux) Another Map Editor? Even if that made sense, it'd be ...not good.

Its a recursive acronym, like GNU (GNU's not UNIX), the real LAME (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), PHP (PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor), etc. Computer people are geeks like that.

SuSE - Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:16 pm
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ya, but LAME IS and mp3 encoder

(that comment was actually referring to Smong's LAME, though)

Anonymous - Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:30 am
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Fortunately I have a backup name, 'DustEd' named after Dustpuppy.

The resize glitch:
I experimented with window resize about a year back and the window just sort of grew and moved across the screen all by itself.
There are -w and -h parameters for width and height, but since you can run it without a map as a parameter you never get to see the usage text.

Windows:
Yeah I know it's portable but last time I tried compiling an SDL app with VC6 it kind of screwed up directdraw or something after the second run, so it was just a window frame with nothing inside it (happened to ctm too).

SuSE - Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:32 am
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-Smong- wrote:

Fortunately I have a backup name, 'DustEd' named after Dustpuppy.

duster's cool, but I'm not sure that makes sense, either

-Smong- wrote:

Windows:
Yeah I know it's portable but last time I tried compiling an SDL app with VC6 it kind of screwed up directdraw or something after the second run, so it was just a window frame with nothing inside it (happened to ctm too).

ewww don't use that stuff

Grelminar - Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:20 am
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It's good to see another map editor, especially one with new features. I really want to see one grow into a complete zone authoring environment, including lvls, regions, settings, lvzs, and even source code.

For the record, LAME (the mp3 encoder) originally wan't an mp3 encoder, it was a giant patch to the reference encoder source code published by the ISO that improved quality and speed. Later on, it became independent from the ISO source and only then did the name become inaccurate.

Solo Ace - Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:26 am
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I have the first version (and probably the first release) of DustEd, I love it.

SuSE - Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:27 am
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Grelminar wrote:

and not in Java

Grelminar wrote:

For the record, LAME (the mp3 encoder) originally wan't an mp3 encoder, it was a giant patch to the reference encoder source code published by the ISO that improved quality and speed. Later on, it became independent from the ISO source and only then did the name become inaccurate.

duh

Smong - Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:09 am
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Edit2: I had to resolve all my forward declarations, activate some obscure multithreaded runtime library option thingymajigy and ignore a whole load of signed/unsigned warnings.

This version has the resizable window.

CypherJF - Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:59 am
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Nice little clone of the SS engine or w/e ya wanna call it

. Anyways, it a tad slow on my machine using the arrows to move around... o well.

Anonymous - Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:01 pm
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Uh yeah the arrow keys are actually for when I was debugging the smooth scrolling (hence 1px per tap), you're supposed to use the mouse.

Tweezy - Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:25 pm
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You're supposed to use the mouse to scroll, not the arrow keys.

D1st0rt - Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:49 pm
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Smong's Happy Level prOductioN Gear

edit: I guess Hyper or Hallucinogenic would work too

i88gerbils - Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:51 pm
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SubSpace Levels for Unix Tool

SLUT

or

SubSpace Mapping for Unix Tool

SMUT

This is defintely the acronym, the words can be changed around a bit. Well either a "L" or a "M".

Or maybe, Subspace Linux (or Level) Utility ToolS (if it will be more than just maps). In which case it could be sluts.

And how about:

Continuum Unix Mapping or a variation thereof. But the best of that name would of course be, Continuum Mapping 4 Unix, or CuM4U.

SuSE - Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:46 pm
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I like SubSpace Level Utitlity Tool - it doesn't favor one platform

Grelminar - Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:52 pm
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For the record, I didn't intend to start a trend of naming SS-related programs with vulgar puns. It was more of a play on "A Small ..." than anything else. I think LAME and DustEd are both good names.

Also, my complaint about, um, CLIT, isn't that it's written in java, but that it doesn't run (with all its features) on linux. And it doesn't support ELVL stuff yet, but I understand that might take some time.

Dr Brain - Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:57 pm
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I think everyone was joking about the vulgar acronyms.

SSMT would be my real reccomendation

SubSpace Map Tool(kit)

SuSE - Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:02 pm
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I prefer acronyms with vowels - one or two syllables is best. Vulgar or not.

Regarding CLIT, I think 2dragons mention it was going to be basically completely remade.

CypherJF - Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:46 pm
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mmmmm i still think SSME is the best tool yet; if someone could clone it; and add features and fix the bugs, life would be good. Simply because it runs fast; and is pretty powerful, GUI is simple but yet effective. etc.

i88gerbils - Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:56 pm
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Grelminar did not start the naming scheme.

Priitk did.

CypherJF - Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:03 pm
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How is that?

Anonymous - Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:44 pm
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In one of the updates it said Cuntinuum in the title of the webpage.

i88gerbils - Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:57 am
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Before that...

Grelminar - Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:10 am
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I suppose you're referring to BanG. That's a good point, I had forgotten about that.

SuSE - Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:04 am
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that's um, a fair step from ASSS and even fairer a step from CLIT

i88gerbils - Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:23 am
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Not with all the jokes that went around...

D1st0rt - Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:53 pm
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Mine isn't platform specific... and it tells you whose it is too!

SuSE - Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:42 pm
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Mine does the dishes and gives handjobs.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:46 pm
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Damn, can't compete with that...

Anonymous - Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:31 pm
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What file am i supposed to execute to open Lame? I can't find a file anywhere in here.

Bak - Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:43 pm
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Lame is an earlier version of DustEd, see http://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?t=4130

Purge - Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:01 pm
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Tweezy- wrote:

What file am i supposed to execute to open Lame? I can't find a file anywhere in here.

Tweezy's back.

Tweezy - Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:01 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

[..]

Tweezy's back.

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