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Trash Talk - Bad Practice?

Cyan~Fire - Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:49 pm
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I have a chatnet client half-written in C++ that I abondoned long ago in light of schoolwork. However, since I have a little tiny bit of time off, I'd like to try finishing it in these 5 Thanksgiving days. So, here's my question.

Right now, I'm storing my player structs in a linked list almost completely ripped off MERVBot. However, I was re-familiarizing myself with the code and I thought "now what if I just make my player Listbox the playerlist, with lParams pointing to the player structs?".

Would this be bad practice? Or just a hassle? Or good?

Thanks.

Mr Ekted - Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:31 pm
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Bad. Separate data from user interface.

SuSE - Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:14 pm
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DON'T BE SILLY LOOK AT WINDOWS!

Assassin2684 - Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:16 pm
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Dont make fun of windows because it sucks ass.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:36 pm
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Uhh, whatever.

Anyway, sorry for replying, I just silently followed your advice.

Thanks.

Bak - Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:48 am
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Assassin2684 wrote:

Dont make fun of windows because it sucks ass.

windows isn't that bad

Cyan~Fire - Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:59 am
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Yeah, it does a lot for you... just in very weird ways.

lp_street_soldier - Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:01 am
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I might be chaning to Linux... but, it doesn't have as many capabilities as Windows XP. Windows 98SE is far better... but I mean, XP is advanced and better... more holes etc in it...

<shuts up>

SuSE - Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:14 pm
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lp_street_soldier wrote:

I might be chaning to Linux... but, it doesn't have as many capabilities as Windows XP.

...and you're basing this on what, exactly? Having never used Linux before?

Don't be a propoganda victim, mayne. The future of software is free and open source. Know why? Because no company can compete with millions of programmers worldwide uniting because they're tired of paying $500 for a program.

CypherJF - Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:31 pm
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Yeah; but what does that mean to the CS majors who need to have good paying jobs to survive in the world.. when companies have to compete against open-source AND piracy.. :-/

Dr Brain - Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 pm
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It means that they have to find a new economic strategy.

This means finding a job where either: Piracy means nothing and you can release your code open source and still make a profit. Device drivers are an excellent example of this. The software is totally useless without the hardware that the company sells.

The another option is to code for large corperations and remove piracy from the equation.

Other options include defence contracting and embedded system programming.

There will always be a place in the world for programmers, but the era of the paid application developer is coming to an end.

SuSE - Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:39 pm
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Exactly. Hardware OR...just don't charge $500 to use your program. Offer a decent trial and make it a small amount (like less than $5 or something) to get the full package.

D1st0rt - Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:55 pm
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98SE good? what?! 98SE is up there as possibly one of the worst operating systems ever, along with ME and OS9.

Dr Brain - Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:02 pm
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Actually, IMO, 98se is one of the best MS operating systems.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:05 pm
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You're just saying that because it's cheaper. Cheaper just means older, not better.

CypherJF - Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:18 pm
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I thought 98se the best. ME has been by far the worse.

CypherJF - Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:35 pm
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SuSE wrote:

Exactly. Hardware OR...just don't charge $500 to use your program. Offer a decent trial and make it a small amount (like less than $5 or something) to get the full package.

My friend released a program for 10$, which disables itself after 30 days. People made a freaking crack for it; rather than pay the 10$. You're telling me not to charge 500$... pft. I do disagree, software that costs 200$-2000$ is a bit much... but many of the companies give student discounts for a full product; take advantange of it. I will!

Maple which is a big math suite is 2k$ normal; and 100 something as a student. I am definately going to buy it before I graduate

. I did the same thing for my Macromedia MX Studio..

Journeyed.com etc.

SuSE - Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:12 pm
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Well personally I'd make it something nearly irresistably cheap, like one or two dollars.

Software that disables is another story, anyways. It's innately gay.

CypherJF - Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:47 pm
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I believe he's changing it or did change it to nag-ware screen like winzip; supposively.

Dr Brain - Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:18 pm
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The point is that application developers are a dying breed.

Adapt or die. Resistance is futile.

CypherJF - Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:28 pm
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Well considering most schools don't teach how to create, let alone teach C++ ASM etc, drivers for hardware, etc. Then probably in trouble.

Dr Brain - Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:34 pm
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Your school doesn't even teach C++? Dude, that's not cool.

SuSE - Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:36 pm
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School? ha

CypherJF - Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:07 pm
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LOL. I wanted to take it but my advisor sighed upon it; and kept talking me into these other classes like networking, software design, ya know.. "other" areas...

I ended up lets see, taking the software design and programming language; upto 18 credits... Thought about taking the C++ regardless, but its a web course etc etc.

myke - Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:47 pm
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CypherJF wrote:

I thought 98se the best. ME has been by far the worse.

pssh i never had a problem with ME...i had more problems with 98se, xp and 2k

Cyan~Fire - Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:23 am
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It's impossible to have less problems with ME than 98. ME has 0 (yes, 0) changes from the programming API of 98. Show you how much change MS put into it? It should.

And I dunno how you've had a problem with 2000. It's run perfectly for me.

Anonymous - Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:38 am
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Win CE + Win ME + Win NT = Windows CEMENT.

As hard as concrete and as dumb as a brick.

Solo Ace - Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:37 am
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LOLOLOLOLOL!!

Ehm, sorry.

Dr Brain - Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:10 am
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I used ME for a couple years, and I never had any issues with it. I happen to like 98se slightly better, but other than the annoying renames, I've been happy with ME.

CypherJF - Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:01 pm
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nm what i had writen here.