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Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:54 am
Post subject: If you could add something to SSC billing server (reopened)

If you could add something to SSC billing server...

... what would it be?

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Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 10:39 am
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(User Above) wrote:

: If you could add something to SSC billing
: server...
:
: ... what would it be?

My zone

,

but for a feature I would add chat ownership and chat passwording.

I'm not sure if it exists already, but it would also be nice to have a *scoreadd so you could add points to someones score with a bot (subtracting would be nice too).

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:11 am
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(User Above) wrote:

: My zone

,
:
: but for a feature I would add chat ownership
: and chat passwording.
:
: I'm not sure if it exists already, but it would
: also be nice to have a *scoreadd so you
: could add points to someones score with a
: bot (subtracting would be nice too).

OOOOoooo.... both of those sound like $$$ ideas. if only wishes came true :)

Anborn

anborn@carolina.rr.com

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 2:57 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: OOOOoooo.... both of those sound like $$$
: ideas. if only wishes came true

Second one exists already

-- The Blankiest Blank --

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 3:20 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: Second one exists already

thought it might...

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 5:17 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: thought it might...

if I may say, I like that chat idea thingy. Where you can have chat passwords and only allow certain ppl on such as a squad....other stuff im sure.

Savant_13@yahoo.com

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 6:18 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: if I may say, I like that chat idea thingy.
: Where you can have chat passwords and only
: allow certain ppl on such as a
: squad....other stuff im sure.

Eh...that might be hard to do for SSC. Would have to have ops regulating it to keep it from getting out of control

akai@mail.nu

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 7:55 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: Eh...that might be hard to do for SSC. Would
: have to have ops regulating it to keep it
: from getting out of control

no, if a chat has a pass, its private, no pass and its public (and acts like normal), and chat ownership so the chat owner can kick ppl, like a squad.

Anonymous - Fri Nov 29, 2002 10:58 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: no, if a chat has a pass, its private, no pass
: and its public (and acts like normal), and
: chat ownership so the chat owner can kick
: ppl, like a squad.

No, I mean there would need to be regulation when it comes to obtaining ownership. Concerns would be ownership of excessive amounts of chats and owning chats that a zone might want as an official chat etc etc. So an active role on behalf of some ops would be required, I think.

akai@mail.nu

Anonymous - Sat Nov 30, 2002 12:12 am
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(User Above) wrote:

: No, I mean there would need to be regulation
: when it comes to obtaining ownership.
: Concerns would be ownership of excessive
: amounts of chats and owning chats that a
: zone might want as an official chat etc etc.
: So an active role on behalf of some ops
: would be required, I think.

yah, I guess...

Anonymous - Sat Nov 30, 2002 5:25 am
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(User Above) wrote:

: yah, I guess...

Like, it works alright for SSXH, and SSXH is doing quite well lately, but its total daily population is still lightyears behind SSC.

akai@mail.nu

Anonymous - Sat Nov 30, 2002 2:16 pm
Post subject: RE: If you could add something to SSC billing server...

(User Above) wrote:

: If you could add something to SSC billing
: server...
:
: ... what would it be?

So far, it has been only a chat channel password. Just a note: the way a chat channel password usually works (such as ?chat=zoneops:league) is that the billing server would treat it like a channel named zoneops_league, so a ?chat=zoneops would be public. This is the reason it hasn't been added before because to keep it from having to be regulated is so simple of an idea, that someone could have their channel named ?chat=zoneops8h3en8 and it would act as a password. The only advantage of the billing server treating it differently is for those of you that log your ?chat's and post them publicly.

Any other suggestions?

-Mine

mgb@minegoboom.com

Anonymous - Sat Nov 30, 2002 9:13 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: Any other suggestions?
:
: -Mine

Could a ?seen command be built into the biller?

akai@mail.nu

Anonymous - Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:35 pm
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I was thinking more along the lines of a ?ghost command

-Plat

platinum-halo@ssforum.net

Anonymous - Sun Dec 01, 2002 4:08 pm
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Now that would be very useful indeed Plat

-SvS (HellSpawn1440)

svs@sscentral.com

Anonymous - Sun Dec 01, 2002 6:14 pm
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(User Above) wrote:

: I was thinking more along the lines of a ?ghost
: command

: -Plat

Only thinking I see worng with a ghost command is that someone could use it to be in your chat when you don't want them there. Then you would have no way to tell who it is. Even if the owner could see eveyone on chat and the persons using the ?ghost command had a * by their name (IE: *Nurples) It could still lead to problems if the owner is not around.

As for Passworded chats. Their would have to be a "law" laid down. People would go out and try to register every chat they could think of. There will have to be someone who could see a listing of the #'s of chats a person owned. OR set a limit of chat ownerships per person. IE 5 chats per person. But who is to say that a person will not just register 5 names to get 25 channels?

Nurples@nurples.com

SuSE - Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:48 pm
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?seen command, a la !seen bots?

Mine GO BOOM - Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:52 pm
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PriitK wrote:

>?seen (Show the last time a player was online. Syntax: "?seen <player name>")

This command has some privacy issues -- what if a player dont want other players to see when he was last online? This will create a lot more work for ops, as name whores will see when a name was last used and there will be a lot of requests like "l33t nick was used 5 months ago last time, gimme gimme gimme"

reel bad - Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:47 pm
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*bows to priitk*

Gravitron - Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:07 pm
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You mean, as opposed to the situation which is currently now with every newbie asking for a vet's name that hasn't been in use for less than a month?
I wonder how many requests were made for peasent's paladin or weather helm for example.
FYI one of Juan's other aliases is ripe for the taking, if anyone don't care about ghostship taking it from them once they start using it (that is if he knows about it).

Besides, if priitk is so scared of people asking for aliases (as if they don't spam him already with requests), he can just divert them to flood one of the "hidden" billing ops, like mikethenose.

Back to the subject, the INF biller has some interesting functions...

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:29 pm
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According to those just in Trench Wars, the name "god" has been unused every second, and it should have gone through around 200 owners.

reel bad - Wed Dec 11, 2002 8:11 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

You mean, as opposed to the situation which is currently now with every newbie asking for a vet's name that hasn't been in use for less than a month?

Better just noobs than noobs as well as vet name ho's.

Gravitron also wrote:

I wonder how many requests were made for peasent's paladin or weather helm for example.
FYI one of Juan's other aliases is ripe for the taking, if anyone don't care about ghostship taking it from them once they start using it (that is if he knows about it).

Besides, if priitk is so scared of people asking for aliases (as if they don't spam him already with requests), he can just divert them to flood one of the "hidden" billing ops, like mikethenose.

Back to the subject, the INF biller has some interesting functions...

Just because there is already a problem doesn't mean we should make it worse by making the problem easier for people to add to. I agree that ?seen would be nice and intereting and all, but there are so many feature abusers in subspace that I have difficulty in not seeing this as a major problem (should it be implemented). Perhaps there could be some abiguity added, so that name stealers and whore will have about as hard a time as they do now. For instance, I think the reclaim-with-any-password time is 90 days; we could make ?seen for any person that hasn't been on for 10 days or two weeks show up as just that, not seen for two weeks. So whether they haven't logged in in a year, or two weeks, the message is the same. Only namers really care about people who were logged on a long time ago anyway. What do you think?

Gravitron - Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:11 am
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You are taking a rat, and growing it onto an elephant.
By the way, last I herd, god was stolen by gemini dream.

Anyway, how about we begin with ?viewsquad to see who else of your squad is online?
So we can all go back to the good old shift+3 instead of having to use stupid chats?

MnM{333} - Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:47 am
Post subject: hmm

I'd make a ?goat command ;)
hmmm yah that squad listing thing'd be great... and it'd show the online status only... so that way the squadleader still feels special with his list command...

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:00 am
Post subject: Good job people.

PriitK wrote:

Good idea, but instead of adding new command, I've added that info to ?find output. I user is not online, ?find will reply:
Not online, last seen x days ago
or
Not online, last seen more than 10 days ago

Good job people, keep the suggestions coming. It isn't updated yet, but it will be done shortly, probably next billing recycle.

reel bad - Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:13 am
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Gravitron wrote:

Anyway, how about we begin with ?viewsquad to see who else of your squad is online?
So we can all go back to the good old shift+3 instead of having to use stupid chats?

That'd be great Grav.

Really no such thing as a private chat, is there?

i88gerbils - Fri Dec 13, 2002 1:49 am
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I miss my ?goat command... >_<

Actually, all you need to do to counteract massive registration is the same thing you do with the player database. Delete unused chat rooms after a certain period.

Anonymous - Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:00 pm
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While we're sort of on the problem of names, how about that command for deleting (or requesting deletion) of a profile that a person owns but does not use?

Could do this without adding to biller, but 't'would be simpler if added, methinks.

Gravitron - Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:24 pm
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So first priitk objects because of "privacy issues" and now he calls it a "good idea"??

Why do I get the feeling that I can tell him a joke that he won't like, and if I tell it to him tomarrow again he'll think it's hillarious...

SuSE - Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:32 pm
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Estonians

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:55 pm
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He disliked the idea of anyone checking the times when people last logged in, because there are a bunch of names that people want that truly have not been used since 2000 or before. But i guess he likes the idea that if someone hasn't logged in for 3 years is the same as if i didn't log in for about a week.

reel bad - Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:30 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

If the privacy issues are resolved... isn't it a good idea then?

Gravitron - Sat Dec 14, 2002 7:02 am
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If grandma had wheels, wouldn't it be a good idea then?

Helicon - Sat Dec 14, 2002 5:42 pm
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devil's advocate...
how 'bout a cycle, where wanted names need to be renewed with a limit on the max # / machine. kids can have as many names as they want but they cant KEEP them forever. its a beatbale system, but who would bother? small cases could be handled, the system is flexible. players could maybe even register 1 permanent (master) name. the "famous" guy who wants his name to be his feather can keep "IamGOD" as long as he also doesnt try to register every other variation known to the english language. and if he does, he cant keep them.

'bout name checking, who the heck would actually use this? what's it good for except getting in other people's business. it would be so much easier if people wouldnt take this game as a matter of personal character.chicks dont even go for this game anymore! whats the big deal. gemini dream is still gemini dream, even if he's "Dumbo Fever" in the game... its not like anyone quakes with fear when someone special flies by anyway...

PS the squad checker is WAY overdue.... and maybe a "pop-up frame" (whatever the hell you call those things) that shows only squaddies, so you can PM real easy... the possibilities are endless for improvement here, which is pretty sad

reel bad - Sat Dec 14, 2002 6:51 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

If grandma had wheels, wouldn't it be a good idea then?

Helicon - Sun Dec 15, 2002 7:39 pm
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reel bad wrote:

Gravitron wrote:

If grandma had wheels, wouldn't it be a good idea then?

oh yeah

("nested quotes", hehe)

ndm_tweezy_911 - Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:22 pm
Post subject: ToO MaNy PoStS

way too many posts here i think instead of re-newing names we need to re-new this topic into a new one

lol jp anyways yea

ndm_tweezy_911 - Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:24 pm
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Helicon wrote:

reel bad wrote:

Gravitron wrote:

If grandma had wheels, wouldn't it be a good idea then?

("nested "nested" quote")

ndm_tweezy_911 - Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:26 pm
Post subject: Re: RE: If you could add something to SSC billing server...

Anonymous wrote:

(User Above) wrote:

: If you could add something to SSC billing
: server...
:
: ... what would it be?

My zone

i agree....wait no i dont.....they should add MY zone