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ASSS Questions - Compiling Modules with ASSS 1.4.4?
Rog - Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:09 pm
Post subject: Compiling Modules with ASSS 1.4.4?
I'm not having any success compiling modules with ASSS 1.4.4 (on Linux). The server itself compiles and installs (asss, backtrace, etc.) just fine, but none of the modules get compiled, it's like they're just getting ignored, including the turf example.

make deps, then make.. compile goes well.. but no turf.o or turf.so In fact, no .so files at all. I'm making do with the ones from the premade binaries at the moment, but I'd love to be able to compile some other modules.

I've tried using the makefile fragment method described via http://wiki.minegoboom.com/index.php/Installing_New_Modules but then when that didn't work I just concentrated on trying to get the included examples (turf mainly) to compile.

I don't know what other info to give unfortunately, because there aren't any errors to speak of, it's like it's just skipping over any of the modules at compile time. So I'm hoping someone else ran into this problem and knows a quick fix. Is there a known problem with the dl_template (I'm just guessing here)?

Am I missing something really obvious here? I'm not a C/C++ coder and don't have much experience compiling, but I thought the modules were supposed to get compiled along with the rest? Making a custom makefile is bit beyond my scope for make -f, but any suggestions to get these compiled would be appreciated.
Dr Brain - Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:29 pm
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I'm not sure the exact nature problem you're having. Which modules aren't building for you that come prebuilt?

Have you tried "make turf"?

Take a look in system.mk and make sure you've configured things in there properly.
Rog - Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:50 pm
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Dr Brain wrote:
I'm not sure the exact nature problem you're having. Which modules aren't building for you that come prebuilt?

Have you tried "make turf"?

Take a look in system.mk and make sure you've configured things in there properly.



Yeah sorry for not having much to go on, I'm pretty confused here with it so I don't know what would be relevant without any sort of compile errors, etc..

Turf for starters I'd like to get a turf.so out of it just for my own sanity of getting a module example compiled. But basically all of the makefile fragments that include the dl_template don't seem to be doing much, nada for database, funky, pymod, scoring, etc.

make turf gives me:

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make: `turf' is up to date.


The only thing I've changed in system.mk was the home for DB4 to get it to compile.

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Bak - Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:10 pm
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delete turf.so and do make turf
Rog - Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:28 pm
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Bak wrote:
delete turf.so and do make turf


There is no turf.so, it never gets made. I've tried removing the premade binaries, I've even tried the source-only download for ASSS 1.4.4 and still have the same problem.

Basically, make appears to be returning without doing anything on modules.

I am suspecting it has something to do with the Makefile dl_template for the modules, because those are the only portions of the compile that get skipped over. I have no idea how to fix it though.
CypherJF - Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:39 pm
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Check your /asss144/build folder for any *.so, *.o files.
Rog - Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:39 pm
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CypherJF wrote:
Check your /asss144/build folder for any *.so, *.o files.


Plenty of *.o files, but none for any of the modules. Not a single .so file. icon_sad.gif

Thanks for trying to help so far guys. I'm going to figure this out sooner or later. I'm just realizing it may be that I'm running an old version of GCC (3.2.2, old but not absolutely ancient), is the Makefile doing some newfangled tricks?

I've been running this system a long time but never had any issues compiling until now. And well, if it is a GCC issue, it'll be a little while before I'll be upgrading my parked server, I'm sitting on my grandfathered hosting package and not looking forward to changing that.

So basically nobody else has had troubles with a fresh compile with ASSS 1.4.4's Makefile, etc.?
Rog - Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:16 pm
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Not sure if this is helpful in sorting it out or not.. Using make's debug option, here's the relevant portion for turf. This is after a make clean, with the build dir empty, then make deps and make -d (for this debug info):

(Edit: Oops, cut and pasted from wrong attempt, here's the right one)

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Considering target file `turf/turf.mk'.
  Looking for an implicit rule for `turf/turf.mk'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.o'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.c'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.cc'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.C'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.cpp'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.p'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.f'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.F'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.r'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.s'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.S'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.mod'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.sh'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk,v'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/RCS/turf.mk,v'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/RCS/turf.mk'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/s.turf.mk'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/SCCS/s.turf.mk'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.o'.
  Looking for a rule with intermediate file `turf/turf.mk.o'.
   Avoiding implicit rule recursion.
   Trying pattern rule with stem `turf.mk'.
  Found an implicit rule for `turf/turf.mk'.
  Finished prerequisites of target file `turf/turf.mk'.
  Prerequisite `turf/turf.mk.o' of target `turf/turf.mk' does not exist.
No need to remake target `turf/turf.mk'.


Is it just me, or does it seem to be looking for turf.mk.c, etc. rather than the .c files specified in the .mk, or is that just typical debug info?

turf doesn't show up past that in the debug list.
Dr Brain - Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:28 pm
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Yeah, it does all that with mine too, so I guess it's not a big deal.

To be perfectly honest, I haven't used a fresh directory in a very long time. I've got a monotone working directory instead.

I doubt gcc would give you any trouble (if it were, it would manifest itself differently). Sounds more like a make issue if anything. I'm using GNU Make 3.81.

Try make clean, then log the output of "make" to a file and attach it here.
Rog - Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:08 am
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Okay, attached two files. One is the output from make and the other is make -d (debug). Both were after make clean, make deps.

On a side note, just played a couple hours of BountyRabbit with friends and it's the first time since '97 that most of them have played Subspace. Awesome stuff, we're all very happy with any and all the peeps that have contributed to ASSS

Now if I could just extend it a bit more, I'm stuck with just precompiled + Python modules. =)

I'll try Monotone tomorrow.
Smong - Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:44 am
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Did you unzip the asss package correctly? Just wondering if you are missing some directories like src/scoring.
Dr Brain - Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:19 am
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Those logs reveal nothing, I'm afraid. Something is definitely wrong though, but I couldn't tell you what.

Try getting a copy from monotone, or as a hack, you could tell all the modules to get built inside asss instead of their own .so file.
Rog - Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:17 am
Post subject: I give up, gonna make binaries on a new machine.
Same results with the source retrieved via Monotone, so I'm really thinking it's something to do with my older GCC (v3.2.2) and/or Make (v3.79.1), or some other configuration on my hosted Linux machine.

I think what I'll do is build a CentOS production machine here, so I can compile locally and then move the module binaries over to my hosted server until I get around to finally reinstalling that whole box.

Thanks everyone for trying to help me solve this. =)
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