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Trash Talk - Windows Problems - Any suggestions?
Emblazon - Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:26 pm
Post subject: Windows Problems - Any suggestions?
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4:Emblazon> anyone wanna help witha  computer problem?
4:Yavaris> depends on what it is :P
4:Emblazon> this is a windows thing
4:Yavaris> still maybe
4:Emblazon> windows wont start cuz the ntoskrnl.exe file is missing or corrupt
4:JabJabJab> get a new one
4:Yavaris> ew
4:Emblazon> ive tried booting from the windows cd
4:JabJabJab> find where in the system it lies
4:Yavaris> how about windows repair?
4:JabJabJab> replace old with new
4:Emblazon> explain
4:Chambahs> go through your folders
4:Emblazon> windows doesnt start nub
4:Chambahs> find out where it is
4:Chambahs> then how are you on the computer
4:JabJabJab> Put it to safe mode
4:Emblazon> its not my computer nub
4:Yavaris> can you still start up in safe mode?
4:JabJabJab> SAFE MODE
4:Chambahs> SAFE MODE
4:Yavaris> ^
4:JabJabJab> lol
4:Chambahs> with all my problems
4:Chambahs> if you need to know how to fix a motherboard, cpu or ram, im here
4:Chambahs> lol
4:Yavaris> use a hammer right?
4:Chambahs> yes
4:Emblazon> safe mode gives same error
4:JabJabJab> hmm
4:JabJabJab> restore disks
4:Emblazon> booting from windows cd just gives ntkrnlmp.exe could not be loaded error code 7
4:Yavaris> http://www.helpmij.nl/forum/showpost.php?s=2729027a075b2297b2e318e7bba2c5b5&p=1657931&postcount=3
4:Yavaris> read it
4:Yavaris> same problem as you
4:JabJabJab> um RESTORE disks
4:Emblazon> um DONT HAVE ANY
4:Emblazon> it wont boot from the cd
4:Yavaris> ewwww
4:Emblazon> it starts
4:Emblazon> but then says ntkrnlmp.exe could not be loaded error code 7
4:Chambahs> hmm
4:Yavaris> sure youre booting form cd and not hdd or floppy?
4:Emblazon> cd
4:Chambahs> dont you have 2 computers?
4:Emblazon> its my brothers laptop
4:Chambahs> mm, then that wont work..
4:Emblazon> i have a laptop and a desktop as well
4:Chambahs> i was gonna say
4:Yavaris> google finds: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318729
4:Chambahs> take the harddrive, and set it up as a slave to another HD, then you can boot up on the master HD, and go through the files on the slave drive, find out where it is, and replace it
4:Chambahs> but thats if you have 2 PCs
4:Emblazon> ive already restored bios to default, didnt change anything. and the computer only has 1 ram stick so i cant remove any
4:Yavaris> ew
4:Yavaris> your pc sucks
4:Emblazon> we think this may have been caused by a virus from a torrent download finishing overnight. suddenly the computer shut down and this morning, it started doing this.
Smong - Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:33 pm
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Moved to trash talk.
BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:54 pm
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You can use a Knoppix cd to copy over all your IMPORTANT files then reinstall windows. Or you could try a different approach and use Linux (if you want to try it since your pc seems screwed. You may be able to download a new file (w/e it's called) and use knoppix or something to transfer it on your pc and see if it fixes it. Can you boot in the command prompt? Hit f8 before you get to the windows start up screen (after you download the file you need) and transfer it over.

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NTOSKRNL.EXE is missing or corrupt.
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NTOSKRNL.EXE is missing or corrupt.

Related errors:

    Below is a listing of the full error message that may be related to this error.

    Windows NT could not start because the below file is missing or corrupt:

    C:\Winnt\System32\Ntoskrnl.exe

Cause:

       1. Keyboard issue
       2. Miscellaneous corruption
       3. Corrupt boot.ini file.
       4. Missing boot.ini file.
       5. Missing or corrupt ntoskrnl.exe file.
       6. Windows NT installed on a partition bigger then 7.8GB
       7. Corrupted hard disk drive or severely corrupted Windows.

Solution:
Keyboard issue

    This issue has also been known to be caused by a short in the ground wire in the keyboard cable. Make sure this is not the cause of your error by replacing the keyboard with a different keyboard or simply just disconnecting the keyboard from the computer.

Miscellaneous corruption

    Before trying any of the below recommendations it's recommend that you attempt to load the last known good configuration. Additional information about doing this can be found on document CH000626.

Corrupt boot.ini file

    This issue is often caused when the boot.ini is missing or improperly configured. This issue often arises after a user has recently added or removed an operating system on the computer or added or removed hard disk drives in the computer.

    Make sure the line pointing to the operating system and it's drive and partition is properly configured in the [boot loader] and [operating systems] section. Additional information about boot.ini can be found on document CH000492.

Missing boot.ini file

    Microsoft Windows XP users:

    If the boot.ini is severely corrupted or missing a user running Microsoft Windows XP can rebuild the boot.ini to resolve this issue. Additional information about rebuilding the boot.ini can be found on document CH000648.

    Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000  users:

    To restore the original boot.ini file in Microsoft Windows NT or Windows 2000 you will need an ERD and follow the below steps. If you do not have an ERD you will be unable to follow these steps.

       1. Boot the computer with your Windows NT three setup diskettes or the Windows 2000 setup disc.
       2. In the setup menu, type R to start the repair.
       3. When prompted for the ERD diskette insert the diskette and inspect the startup environment.

Missing or corrupt ntoskrnl.exe file

    If the ntoskrnl.exe file is corrupt or missing this can also generate the error. To restore this file follow the below steps.

       1. Insert the Microsoft Windows XP CD. Note: If you have a recovery CD or a restore CD and not a Microsoft Windows XP CD it is likely the below steps will not resolve your issue.
       2. Reboot the computer, as the computer is starting you should see a message to press any key to boot from the CD. When you see this message press any key.
       3. In the Microsoft Windows XP setup menu press the R key to enter the recovery console.
       4. Select the operating system you wish to fix, and then enter the administrator password.
       5. Type expand d:\i386\ntoskrnl.ex_ c:\windows\system32
       6. You will then be prompted if you wish to overwrite the file type Y and press enter to overwrite the file.
       7. Type exit to reboot the computer.

Windows NT installed on a partition bigger then 7.8GB

    If you are running Microsoft windows NT 4.0 on a partition larger than 7.8GB this issue can occur if the boot files are located outside this limitation. When this error occurs your computer will have the error message as shown below.

    OS Loader v4.01
    Disk I/O error status=00000001
    Windows NT could not start because the below file is missing or corrupt: winnt\system32\Ntoskrnl.exe
    Please reinstall a copy of the above file.

    If your system partition is larger than 7.8GB you will need to delete the partition and recreate the partition to 7.8GB or less. Additional information about this issue can be found on Microsoft KB Q224526. 

Corrupted hard disk drive or severely corrupted Windows

    Attempt to check the hard disk drive for any errors by running the chkdsk error. To do this follow the below steps.

       1. Insert the Microsoft Windows XP CD. Note: If you have a recovery CD or a restore CD and not a Microsoft Windows XP CD it is likely the below steps will not resolve your issue.
       2. Reboot the computer, as the computer is starting you should see a message to press any key to boot from the CD. When you see this message press any key.
       3. In the Microsoft Windows XP setup menu press the R key to enter the recovery console.
       4. Select the operating system you wish to fix, and then enter the administrator password.
       5. Once at the recovery console type chkdsk /r
       6. Once completed type exit and see if issue is resolved.

    If after trying all of the above steps you are still encountering the same issue it's likely that Windows is severely corrupted and it is recommended you attempt to reinstall Windows. Additional information about erasing the computer and starting over can be found on document CH000186.

    Finally, if during the Windows installation you encounter errors it's likely that your hard disk drive is bad.



Source: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000646.htm
Emblazon - Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:01 pm
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booting in safe-mode with command prompt gives the same error as booting normally
BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:39 pm
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No No, not safemode, just command prompt. Try that.
Emblazon - Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 pm
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These are the choices:

Normal (tried)
Safe Mode (tried)
Safe Mode with Networking
Safe Mode with Command Prompt (tried)
Enable Boot Logging
Enable VGA Mode
Last Known Good Configuration (tried)
Directory Services Restore Mode
Debugging Mode
Disable Auto-Restart on System Failure
Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:48 pm
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Get Knoppix or Ubuntu or something on a CD and see if that will boot. The fact that it can't boot from the Windows CD is rather worrying. icon_confused.gif
CypherJF - Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:46 pm
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I've used Knoppix Live CD many of times to offload vital files, then nuked my windows install. Kept getting a cannot find C:\windows\system32\ error message and Windows XP wouldn't let me repair it, so I end up having to reinstall it, thinking I had a bad harddrive.
BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:51 pm
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Why didn't you just install Knoppix? icon_biggrin.gif
Emblazon - Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:02 am
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I'll be gone all weekend, but I'm going to make a windows 98 boot disk cd-rom (since the problem laptop doesnt have a floppy drive but my pc does) and try that next week. I'll post if my results when I can. I found a site that explains how to make the cd-rom pretty easily with the right software. http://www.geocities.com/salamand0s/ultra.html
Cyan~Fire - Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:06 pm
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So instead of making a useful boot CD you decide to make a useless one. OK, ignore us.
Animate Dreams - Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:03 pm
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Emblazon wrote:
I found a site that explains how to make the cd-rom pretty easily with the right software. http://www.geocities.com/salamand0s/ultra.html


O_O
BDwinsAlt - Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:13 pm
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Right software? I know on Ubuntu I just open the cd drive, drag and drop, and click write to disc and it's done. Windows XP is like that too. Unless you're trying to make a windows cd. You have to do everything so so. Good luck.
Dr Brain - Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:55 pm
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BDwinsAlt wrote:
Right software? I know on Ubuntu I just open the cd drive, drag and drop, and click write to disc and it's done. Windows XP is like that too. Unless you're trying to make a windows cd. You have to do everything so so. Good luck.


Drag and drop yourself a bootable cd, BD. Please, try to have some idea what you're talking about before you convey your ignorance to the world.
BDwinsAlt - Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:01 pm
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Worked for my Ubuntu, DSL, and SMoothwall cds. They booted fine.

Edit: I do remember having to do all kind of things in order to make a bootable cd on windows. Bleh I was assuming it was an iso.
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