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BDwinsAlt - Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:05 am
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I heard about this before, but I didn't know all of the facts.
http://www.antichrist.net/barack_obama_antichrist.html

This basically explains why he could be the antichrist.

Here is a sniplet from it:

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A simple [thought] play on these words will generate Barack=Iraq, Hussein=Saddam (Hussein), Obama=Osama (Bin Laden).

Confess - Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:41 am
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Is possible. But I do believe that the Anti Christ is supposed to raise up from somewhere in Rome.

BDwinsAlt - Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:49 am
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He is of eastern descent I thought they said. He looks fairly muslim to me. Still kind of weird.

Cancer+ - Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:15 am
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Whoever wrote that is a moron.

The guy went from Obama being an antichrist, to black people sucking, to white people sucking. He just rambles.

BDwinsAlt - Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:24 am
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I didn't read all of it because he types too much. I don't care about the muslims or w/e.

Smong - Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:49 pm
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What do you mean "the antichrist"? What do you think an "antichrist" is and why can there be only one?

Confess - Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:45 pm
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There are many 'antichrist' but there can only be one 'Antichrist'. 'antichrist' are people that are against Jesus Christ, while 'Antichrist' is the most extreme of them, that will be powered by Satan during the tribulation (a period of 7 years in which extreme suffering will occur, before Armeggedan, and also right after [or before] the Christians are raptured). He will make 'peace' or atleast what looks like peace with all nations, but will break the covenant 3 1/2 years into the 7 year tribulation.

Reading the book of Revelations and the book of Daniel in the Bible will truly help you get an understanding on what the end times will be like. The Antichrist plays a key role in the end times.

Animate Dreams - Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:01 am
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Actually, the book of Revelations is most likely about the fall of Rome(as most people educated on the subject now believe), and that it has already passed. Nero was the Anti-Christ, and if you know your Greek, you'd know why... both 666, and 616(another possible translation of the number) are separate ways to spell Nero's name. As for the intricate details, I can't give you those. But I will warn you, chapters 19-21 are not usually considered to be part of the story of the Fall of Rome, but I suppose prophecy for times further on.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:36 am
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I suppose, Animate, that you are excluding the majority of Christians from the "most people educated on the subject" category. Obviously if we are religious we are not educated, I guess.

Anyway, this thread is retarded.

The Apache - Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:00 pm
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here we go, another ridiculous religious thread +1

i hope that everyone who openly argues (e.g confess) about every point who thinks they know everything about religions jumps off a bridge with a weight tied to their ankle.

BDwinsAlt - Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:51 pm
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I heard that there are several mini-antichrists and then there will be one big final one. It happens in intervals or something. Some say Hitler was one of them. I doubt the number of letters in someone's name being the same as 616 (or 666) is significant. History does kind of repeat itself. Has there been a mass disappearance of Christans yet?

Confess - Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:54 pm
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Ugh, MGB, whats the rules for banning again?

Purge - Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:42 pm
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I <3 Jesus

BDwinsAlt - Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:33 pm
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How much would jumping off the bridge pay?

Cyan~Fire - Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:01 pm
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BDwinsAlt wrote:

I heard that there are several mini-antichrists and then there will be one big final one. It happens in intervals or something. Some say Hitler was one of them.

Yeah, actually a correctly-interpreted Revelations talks about several mini-antichrists in separate castles spread throughout the world that Christians have to "beat" first. Then the path to the Boss Antichrist opens up and you have to beat him in his big flying smiley face while he throws Koopas at you.

Animate Dreams - Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:09 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

What I actually meant was religious scholars. These scholars are obviously Christian, or else they'd doubt the validity of the prophecy in the first place. Now, your average Christian who visits church every Sunday and gets pretty much no knowledge elsewhere probably still believes that it refers to the end of the world. I'd like to clarify here that I don't consider myself educated, and that's why I don't personally take a stance on the issue, since I don't know enough myself to really decide.

And BD, I don't guess I explained that well enough. It's not the number of letters in someone's name that matches to 666. From this point on, I'll be speaking only on what I've been told(by educated people, just not doctors), since I haven't taken Greek myself yet, but in Greek, at least Koine Greek, letters also represent numbers, like in Hebrew. It would be like if in English, the symbol 'A' was not only a letter, but also the number 1. And 'B' could represent the number 2. We wouldn't have the actual symbols '1', or '2', just our letter/number conglomerate. So 616 and 666 were both possible spellings of Nero. This is a VERY big hint. It's not a minor connection people have managed to draw after the fact. I guess I'll learn more about that subject next semester, if I manage to take Greek.

There are MANY more parallels and connections that would evidence a foretelling of the end of Rome, instead of the World, but I'm not an expert on them so I'll keep my mouth shut. Maybe in a day or two, though, I'll get someone I know who is educated on the subject to give me a good website on it, and I'll post it here. But for now, Pokemon calls. >_>

Cancer+ - Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:28 am
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Wasn't Ronald Reagan the devil? I think he lived in 666 something.

BDwinsAlt - Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:12 pm
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He didn't fit the profile at all. For the letter and number thing, that is really interesting. I always though it was the number of letters because I've always heard that stupid Reagan thing.

Muskrat - Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:50 pm
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666 = DCLXVI = Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus??

I can find stuff about Nero being the antichrist but nothing about his name having anything to do with 666.... Its not like Latin is transliterated or anything lol.

Animate Dreams - Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:39 am
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http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm

Well, Musk, like I said, I'm no expert. But I did just find this site, which expands on what I said - apparently the numbers that make up his name just add up to 666, which isn't as big a connection as previously implied. Furthermore, there are several words that add up to 666. Though I'm not sure why you mentioned Latin - Revelations is written in Greek. My sister's fiancee is the one who explained the Nero = 666 thing, and despite what he says, he has become EXTREMELY biased because of the school he went to(biased in the Partial Preterist direction). I've got to show him this website. I think you'll be interested in it too, Musk.

By the way, if any of you happen to get interested in this stuff, try to stay away from Wikipedia. I normally really like Wikipedia, but they're usually really bad for religious matters(especially controversial Christian theology). Check out this quote I ran across the other day: "...the Biblical patriarch Jacob (renamed Israel by an unnamed wrestler, see Gen 32:22-32)". Rofl. Renamed Israel by "an unknown wrestler". That gets me every time.

Muskrat - Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:07 pm
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The site's conclusion about Nero: "So the preterist calculation which attributes 666 to Nero, however, is nothing more than a rather desperate attempt to find some likely candidate for the Antichrist other than the Papacy."

It's not just the sum, it is the sum of an assignment of numbers to a translation of a couple of nero's names to aramaic, and then taking the first letters of that translation. I mentioned Latin because that would be the language of Nero, not Greek, not Aramaic. I'm sure that you could turn Animate Dreams into 666 with similar stretching, translating, and selection of letters to use as numbers. All of which is fairly arbitrary.

Nevertheless, I trust that website even less than wikipedia.

Smong - Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:09 am
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Reminds me of how lost fanatics start doing things to random numbers that appear in the show to make them match the "lost numbers". Not too hard considering there's a whole bunch of them. I think the halo series might have messed with numbers as well.