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hellzlaker - Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:49 pm
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a zone called Mad Science stole my map and i never posted it online they just took it from my zone folder without my permision is there i can do anything about it?

Chambahs - Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:00 pm
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No, except cry me a river.

BDwinsAlt - Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:19 pm
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You could always packet flood that guys 28k modem and knock his zone offline. Either that or scare him.

Anonymous - Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:34 pm
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Idiots...

Samapico - Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:51 pm
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How could "they" took it if it never was online?

Maverick - Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:15 am
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He probably meant by "posting it online" that he never posted it to a forum or website. However, he probably did run it on a server and somebody got it when entering the server.

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:47 am
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Maps you say? All 586 in here are unique. With the lvl2img application working out well, even thinking of making a fancy "browse all maps" application by ripping the guys out of some photo gallery applications and throwing in caching maps. Will allow users to upload maps and tag them even.

Samapico - Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:19 am
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LMAO@porno.lvl

^^
lol it turned it into an email link

hah! and you don't have my maps

Nice package... would be nice if they had their zone folders though, so we could go there and play the map (if it still exists)

Sercit - Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:41 am
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Always thought Subspace/Continuum needed a decent encryption method. Atleast a decent one, I thought it had one, but I maybe wrong.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:42 pm
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It does use an encryption method, silly. Just not for the downloaded files.

Doc Flabby - Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:15 pm
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ya if you look in the zones folder in continuum you can see all the maps you ever visited

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:49 pm
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Samapico wrote:

Nice package... would be nice if they had their zone folders though, so we could go there and play the map (if it still exists)

Most of those are from before Continuum existed, which is why it doesn't have many of your maps. To fill in the ones I recently got, I just grabbed everything currently in my Continuum's zone folder, threw it into the same directory as all the old Subspace ones, and used fdupes to delete any maps that are identical, keeping whichever name was oldest.

hellzlaker - Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:35 pm
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Samapico wrote:

How could "they" took it if it never was online?

? what u mean never online my zone was online for a month i think

hellzlaker - Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:37 pm
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Maverick wrote:

He probably meant by "posting it online" that he never posted it to a forum or website. However, he probably did run it on a server and somebody got it when entering the server.

nvm post above, this is exactly i ment.. also Maverick i thought you quit SS because it said it on your site :\

hopefully they'll make that encryption for downloading files in new client, I'm not sure but heard new client might come out

PS: how do you pacte flood?

Chambahs - Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:05 pm
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Hell, nobody ever quits SS, duh.

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:49 pm
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hellzlaker wrote:

hopefully they'll make that encryption for downloading files in new client, I'm not sure but heard new client might come out

There won't be any new clients in the near future that will connect to SSC zones, that is for sure. As for wanting DRM (digital rights management) on Subspace maps and images? HA! Have you learn nothing about the problems with what you are asking for? Check out DVDs, CDs, games, iTunes, etc. Everyone of them has had breaks in them. The new Blu-ray and HD-DVD are already broken. Someone has already cracked Vista's HDMI method by allowing custom drivers (which vista tries to stop) to access the video memory directly, thus being able to record anything that is played on screen.

If the user has access to the file, and he is able to use it in an unencrypted way, nothing you can do can prevent them from having the file dumped to an unencrypted format. For maps, you can make it complex encryption as you want, but a couple of screen shots of the tileset and radar, and they can rebuild your map within minutes with an image editor and FACTS.

Bak - Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:57 pm
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How about contact the zone owner and tell him you made the map and want it removed from his zone? You could even look at the eLVL author tag as proof if you used CLT or newer versions of DCME.

Sercit - Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:32 am
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I didn't think you could ask for digital rights management on a open source system anyway?

Animate Dreams - Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:40 am
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Mine GO BOOM wrote:

[..]The new Blu-ray and HD-DVD are already broken. Someone has already cracked Vista's HDMI method by allowing custom drivers (which vista tries to stop) to access the video memory directly, thus being able to record anything that is played on screen.

And this is why DRM only hurts the honest people. The worst part is, we as consumers allow it.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:34 am
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People are stupid.

I don't understand why all my friends use iTunes to download their stupid music.

I hate Apple.

hellzlaker - Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:58 am
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lime whire or shareaza or azeurus are best

Animate Dreams - Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:04 pm
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Or Usenet/DC++. If you can't find it on Usenet or DC++, then you'll never find it on a FastTrack client.

D1st0rt - Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:35 am
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Apple is very effective at marketing
not as good at the other stuff though

As for torrent clients, I have yet to find one better than uTorrent

Animate Dreams - Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:35 pm
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D1st0rt wrote:

Apple is very effective at marketing

You're joking, right? I mean, even Mac users hate those "PC user, Mac user" commercials. Although, it always annoys me when business teachers talk about how "Apple had better computers, but Bill Gates was a better marketer, and so that's why he won." Now, he WAS a better marketer, but that doesn't make Apple any less sucky.

D1st0rt - Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:02 pm
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Ever heard of the iPod?

Cyan~Fire - Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:49 pm
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I love uTorrent also.

Animate Dreams - Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:28 pm
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D1st0rt wrote:

Ever heard of the iPod?

iPod sold well because it was half the price and 10x the space of all their competitors.

Bak - Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:28 pm
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wat! no

Cyan~Fire - Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:21 am
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wat! no

is right.

It was 50% more expensive than the competitors (believe me, I bought one of the competitors), you were just paying the infamous Apple Style Tax.

Animate Dreams - Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:26 am
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Maybe I just looked at the wrong times, but I remember the Mini coming out at around 300$ or something like that, and then finding a 512MB mp3 player for around 250$. I couldn't find a single mp3 player that had anywhere near the capacity of an iPod.

D1st0rt - Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:06 pm
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We got my Dad a Creative Zen 40GB in like 2002. The thing is a brick, but it still works like a charm. The battery is a little old now so it only gets about 8 hours to a charge but since it's not an iPod you can just buy a new battery.

Animate Dreams - Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:53 pm
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D1st0rt wrote:

...since it's not an iPod you can just buy a new battery.

Same issue I have with the iPhones. I'm sure the iPhone is a direct response to LG's Chocolate phone(which is LG's response to the iPod, in a way), but Apple's customer service is a million miles from Verizon's customer service. My friend already replaced his Chocolate twice within a single year, once because the touch pad was losing its sensitivitiy, and a second time when the SD slot cover didn't close correctly over the SD card, and so it stuck out a little. But if you want a new battery for the iPhone, you have to mail it in to Apple? Wtf? How does Apple expect to sell anything?

Cyan~Fire - Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:24 pm
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D1st0rt wrote:

I use a Creative Zen, too, and love it!

Chambahs - Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:26 pm
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My nephew bought one, and it doesnt have a power switch...and it doesnt have a charger...you have to plug it into the computer via usb and it charges that way...I think thats pretty lame.

hellzlaker - Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:34 pm
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im thinking of buying a psp and using it as an ipod

The Apache - Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:56 pm
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i love my creative zen microphoto. the only bad thing i can see about it is that the screen design is very poorly thought it. it's hard to see in daylight, whatever the background picture/colour.

aside from that, the functions and keys are awesome to use. really simple and effective.