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Anonymous - Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:42 pm
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I would like to know everything about how a server (the physical computer hardware) works and how to set one up. I have a dell blade server and i want to make ranked servers and host websites for free.

Solo Ace - Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:16 am
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ORLY.

If you have to ask this on a forum, don't bother trying.
I don't believe you have a dell blade server, because if you did you could figure this all out by yourself.

A server's just a computer dedicated to "serving" other systems. The hardware's mostly the same, except the hardware of a 'server' is designed to be fast (I/O), usually "fail-safe" and ready for a good air-flow to keep the temperature low.

'Server' computers usually lack a GUI and external hardware.

Good luck with that.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:05 pm
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You're probably confusing a blade server with a rack server. Newbs seem to do this.

K' - Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:04 pm
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Welcome to trash talk.
As you can see above my post - the trash.

Animate Dreams - Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:44 pm
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There isn't necessarily a hardware difference between a server and a normal computer. The term "server" is loosely applied to machines, it can be defined as a computer built for running servers, or any computer that runs servers. A "server" is really just a program that's meant to give some basic amount of central control to multiple programs running on other computers. That definition doesn't apply even to all servers, but that's not a bad way of thinking about them. Anyway, if you want to host stuff for free, I suggest you first check your cash supply and make sure you're willing to dish out... well, I don't know the actual cost, but I'd assume at least 50$ a month? I know of some pseudo-server machines you can rent for 50$ a month(VPSes), but even providing your own machine I don't think you could find anything for less than that. Most professional servers would cost from bare minimum 100$ a month, up to 250$ a month. Just a little information. You could get better responses by telling us what you know about servers, and what exactly you need to learn?

Confess - Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:58 pm
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Sucky VPS, you can get for $10-15. Dedicated Server, low stats and bandwidth, $30.

Animate Dreams - Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:01 pm
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Where could you get a dedicated server for 30$ a month? A full, dedicated server with Linux?

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:53 am
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yeh i can see that there are some real dicks on here. Im sorry if u just shit your pants because you cant afford a Blade. But it says on the side DELL BLADE and i bought it for $3000. by the way I was useing it for something else, NOT, do i need to underline it or can you understand that, NOT for running game servers. douche bag. thanks animate for helping me out.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:56 am
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Quote:

You're probably confusing a blade server with a rack server. Newbs seem to do this.

ass

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:01 am
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and i know there is no difference but what i want to know is, is there any software i need to buy to run game servers, web hosting, and voice servers. Or do i need to pay money to connect those "Servers" to the games main set of servers.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:03 am
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my question is too general and i need a big explination thats why i asked that.

Bak - Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:10 am
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subspace servers -> asss or subgame
web servers -> apache
voice servers -> wtf?

consolidate your posts, rather than posting 7 times

Solo Ace - Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:12 am
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Wow, chill out foo.
Haha, hey "Guest", want to see my C230 AMG?

Some of us actually read the manual instructions when they buy a server. Actually, did you buy just one?

Who said anything about games? I didn't until after you did.

K' - Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:53 am
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By voice he probably means TS/Ventrillo/RW/Skype(uh...are there publicly available server soft?)/etc..

Doc Flabby - Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:16 am
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Anonymous wrote:

yeh i can see that there are some real dicks on here. Im sorry if u just shit your pants because you cant afford a Blade. But it says on the side DELL BLADE and i bought it for $3000.

If you can afford $3000 dollers on a server, that you don't know how to use,
you can afford to pay for professional advice , instead of trying to get it free of teh interweb.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:36 am
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ok well i had to post 7 times because it wouldnt let me edit. ok well what i want to know is do i have to spend money to host things on my blade "Server" like gamer servers, ventrillo, teamspeak, and websites. Ok well this might help explain what im saying, do the big gamer server compaines like www.gameservers.com have to spend money to rent these game servers to people?

Cyan~Fire - Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:36 pm
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Well I was actually hoping you had just a normal rack server instead of a blade server, because now it appears you wasted a bunch of money on power you don't need. Unless it's going to be a giant server for a server-intensive game (like SS is not), you won't need any more power than a standard 1U rack server.

This whole situation is just ridiculous. I'm not even sure what advice to give you at this point.

Mine GO BOOM - Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:39 pm
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Look up each of the software you want to run. Things like Apache is free, so you don't have to pay anything for it. Running a game server like Unreal costs money to buy Unreal, but they do not charge anything after that.

In case you have not caught on, these forums are specific for running a game server for a game called Continuum. And a blade "Server" is nothing special that makes it a server. Servers are just a name for a computer not being used as a desktop, but are still just a computer. There is nothing stopping you from using a blade machine as your normal desktop machine.

Animate Dreams - Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:23 pm
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Yeah, MGB is right, you have to look up each individual server you want to run. If you want to run a Continuum server, you can continue to ask questions about subgame or AS3 and we can point you to what you need. If you'd like to run a webserver, go to http://httpd.apache.org , that would be a good place to start. if you'd like to run a Teamspeak server, you'll have to go here for the files, which like apache, are also free: http://www.goteamspeak.com/ .

If you ever want to run servers, something generic like a "voice" server, you first have to find out what servers are available. In the case of voice you'd be looking at Ventrilo[sic], or TeamSpeak. Skype is another option for online audio conversations, but it doesn't need a server. Your second step is to research the servers, and find one you think fits you best. Third, go to the server's website, and it will tell you if it's free or not, where to get it, and how to install and run it. If you need any help past that, most servers probably have their own forums available, or some form of help you can use. If you get to where you're actually trying to install servers, if you ask here enough times you'll probably get some useful advice.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:03 pm
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oooooo ok thank you. thats what i really needed to know. ok well im still usient the blade for other things so its not going waste. i just like playing games on the side like CSS for my self and i wanted to run game servers and websites but alright ill look into the games.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:05 pm
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oo i didnt even know continuum was game, i thought this was forum for helping people out with any general server related question.

phong - Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:42 pm
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You bought a blade server? You do realize you need both the blade server(s) and the enclosure, unless you bought an enclosure with 1 blade.. Typically the enclosure provides base services like power that the blades cannot run without.

Sorry just a little confused on your hardware specs, if you provided more details I'm sure you would get better assistance.

As for software and services, if you are not familiar with server operating systems and the services included with most, I would assume you aren't familiar with the OS installation itself. On that note I would worry more about studying various operating systems (for you windows), and look into server security before offering free services.

Anonymous - Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:19 pm
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o ok well im dont want to offer any free stuff to epople i just want it for myself because i cant stand the people on some of those CSS servers.

phong - Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:29 pm
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What model/part number is the blade server or enclosure you bought.

wEaViL - Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:56 pm
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Sounds like you really dont know what your doing. Do a google search for Apache2Triad, its a server bundle with alot of preconfigured things for webhosting like Php, MySQL, Webstats, and others. Theres also a free program out thats just like CPanel but I can't remember the name of it right now. Its good for alowing friends to setup there own website on your server. Since your running it from your house, trailer, work, or whatever you'll need a domain name... http://www.Noip.com has a decent service and fair prices. They have a nice program you can run that will keep them updated on your ip if you run it from a lowend connection like dsl or cable where the ip changes randomly.

Confess - Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:30 pm
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serverpronto.com, animate.

Doc Flabby - Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:23 am
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corenetworks.net

is cheaper and you get free reboots.

Anonymous - Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:49 pm
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ok? that says to order one, what do they mean?

Anonymous - Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:37 pm
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ok nevermind i have one of my friends who manages servers to teach me how so this topic is basically closed and i will never bother you guys again

phong - Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:06 pm
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What is the model/part number of the server you bought or did you miss my post.

Blocks - Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:14 pm
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Just for kicks, I did a Google search for "server help" (no quotes).

www.shanky.com/server/ is the 7th result, and
forums.minegoboom.com/ is the 10th result.

Animate Dreams - Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:19 pm
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Wow, that makes me feel like SubSpace is actually important to the computer world.

The Apache - Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:53 am
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Animate Dreams wrote:

Wow, that makes me feel like SubSpace is actually important to the computer world.