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BDwinsAlt - Wed May 31, 2006 8:14 pm
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This is the post I got from http://www.uselessjunk.net/viewtopic.php?t=69928&highlight=&sid=47aa8e56de7fa573bec44f9ba602d4dc

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MineGoBoom
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:56 am Post subject: BET Reply with quote
BET is the best channel ever, im sitting here watching it and i just had to make a post telling you all how badass Black Enertainment Television is. Man it just rules. Kind funny though, i wonder if there was a WET channel, a black guy would enjoy it as much as i do his channel. Anyways my point is; blacks are not a minority anymore so why do they need their own channel?, i just think its racist along with the "nergo college fund" and some other things im forgetting Razz. blah, i know im gonna hear it from yall but im bored.

After I read that whole thread, it got me thinking about test scores. You can actually see test scores based on black/white. I did a comparison and saw that whites, as a whole, scored 2-3 times higher where I live. It has nothing to do with more or less blacks in the school. They averaged the scores by races and the population of each race. Most of the blacks scored
partially under standards. Whites scored mostly At or Above standards. Some people say segregated schools would be best for different types of learning and different levels. I'm not being racist, but what if different races learn differently and maybe were not all equal. At my school most of the blacks in my English class would rather take a Zero than do the work. Blacks make up 12-13% of the population. I try my best to get everything done. I ended up with a 96 in that class. School just got out (I passed, imagen that.) I just wanted to know your thoughts. This is not meant to be racist, I just want to know what you think.

If you want to turn this into a racist thing, look up the Crime Rate on google.

Dr Brain - Wed May 31, 2006 11:47 pm
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It has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with mentality. Most black parents don't take a part in their child's education, and the child grows up to emulate the parent. The same thing happens to some poor white families. Nothing to do with genes, just history, parenting and politics.

BDwinsAlt - Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:02 am
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Yea, I see what you're saying.

Muskrat - Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:07 am
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Brain is right, and furthermore, you ARE being racist in a way that many people who take up your arguments are not. Do you really think that nationality dictates biological learning differences? Well, if you do, you're wrong. The differences exist because of the reasons Brain gave.

I believe that if blacks had been given the same opportunities as whites when America was in its beginnings these problems wouldn't be an issue. I still encounter people everyday who want to deny things to blacks simply for their skin. If someone felt that way about me for my entire life I probably wouldn't want to conform to their curriculums either.

If you lived somewhere in which 99% of the wealthy were of a race other than yours, would you set realistic goals among/above them?

Cerium - Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:35 am
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Wow... deep.

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:04 am
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Better question, why is the guy using my name? Bastard.. the GO BOOM is in all caps to stress the point that the 'mine' is what is exploding, while the first m is capitalized because names look like shit with it that way. And back in VIE days, the case you created is the case you keep, so you had to make sure you did it correctly the first time around.

The next question is why are you searching google for minegoboom and not mine go boom? Can tell as that thread is the sixth one down on google's search.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:22 am
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Old thread from this very forum

D1st0rt - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:32 am
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Statistics are bullshit. Watch test.avi from the "New Server" thread.

Anonymous - Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:50 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

And, as Gravitron said, nobody has a problem with Asians/Indians being smarter than whites, I say it myself all the time (and I'm white). It ticks me off like when my textbook says "African Americans and whites." If only the black people stopped feeling all black and sorry for themselves and made an effort to live just like normal self-respecting people, I think the problem of racism would be gone. (I am definitely not trying to say blacks are genetically stupider.) It's an endless cycle right now.

Agreed.

SamHughes - Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:26 pm
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Muskrat wrote:

Bullshit. Genes do in fact dictate differences in learning ability. People whose ancestry is African are adapted towards different environments than those whose ancestry is European, and similarly for all other areas of the world. The probability that the average intellectual ability of Africans is the same as that of Europeans is zero.

Do you find the repeated superiority of blacks in basketball to be a mere coincidence?

Dr Brain - Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:07 pm
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Do you realize that there is more genetic diversity between two black people than two white people?

I'm not a big believer in everyone being equal, but what you said is simply not true.

The differences between the races is entirely historical.

Muskrat - Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:23 pm
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The Nubians/Ethiopians had one of the first civilizations with admirable math/engineering and language skills and they were black. Yes, this reasoning probably dosen't prove anything, but neither did you.

Are you distinguishing between intellectual ability and learning ability?

Here's another try:
Brain's right, it has to do with recent history, not genetics. Dogs would be an example of evidence you could use as one breed being smarter than another, but it has been shown that this is really just a differing inclination for obedience to humans. I think humans are probably the same way. Being a particular race does nothing for your intelligence, only things like your disposition towards obedience/conforming to a curriculum that measures "standard" intelligence, influenced by childhood or your parent's social status. This is similar to the argument I used earlier.

SamHughes wrote:

Do you find the repeated superiority of blacks in basketball to be a mere coincidence?

I guess you haven't been watching the Western Conference.

Purge - Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:06 am
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Muskrat wrote:

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I guess you haven't been watching the Western Conference.

What about the new Eastern Conference champs?

Cyan~Fire - Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:59 am
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Shut up Purge, you're obviously black and have no right to post here, you genetic retard.

SamHughes - Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:32 am
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So you're saying that dispositions towards obediance are capable of being expressed by genetic differences caused by historical environment, but somehow intelligence is magically the same everywhere.

First of all, 'intelligence' is not something that can be measured by a real number, since there are differences in things like creativity vs memory vs symbolic computation. It's not like you can take two minds and compare their intelligence with a less-than function.

Anyway, what you are doing is taking different brain behavior, and then inventing a measurement system (that takes brains and assigns real numbers to them) contrived in a way that declares all the races equal. This can certainly be done, and you could certainly create a measurement system that tilts the direction in one way or the other, between any two groups of people. Pretending that this makes groups of people 'equal' is just your way of showing you've been brainwashed into believing in political correctness and that you desire to convince yourself of this more than any rational thought on how people are different from each other.

Muskrat - Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:54 am
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SamHughes wrote:

The probability that the average intellectual ability of Africans is the same as that of Europeans is zero.

SamHughes wrote:

First of all, 'intelligence' is not something that can be measured by a real number

Ya don't say?

Presicely why I asked whether you distinguished between intellectual ability and learning ability, as that is our entire argument.

Imagine yourself adopting a very young child. Would you go for a european baby because its going to be smarter?

I defenitely do no presume to think everyone is equal. I simply feel that there hasn't been enough time for human's brains to evolve differently enough that on average different races will have a different potential for learning. Yet when you begin to factor things like social environment, diet, etc. the differences we see begin to surface.

You're right, there is no numerical scale. And within a near infinite possibility of race combinations, who is to say which is 'better'? You can learn math problems quicky, but someone else can learn to kill and skin a boar faster than you.

Purge - Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:44 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Shut up Purge, you're obviously black and have no right to post here, you genetic retard.

I'm not black, WTF.

Anonymous - Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:38 pm
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A study shows that black children adopted at an early age into a white home, scored better on test than blacks living in black homes. Weather or not the whites did better I don't know. I do see white parents doing more involement in their child education which is probably a key event in making whites score higher. Higher expectation are set on whites. On girl has full blooded African parents but was born in Canada, see grew up with all white kids and did exactly what they did. She is an all A student. Seeing the white kids doing good encouraged her to do good also. So it may not be genetics, genetics may play a small role. Caring and desire to do good is key. Degrading yourself to rap is another story intirely

Anonymous - Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:40 pm
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I forgot to say something...ROFL to Cyan. LMFAO