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THE Lucifer - Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:17 am
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Instead of having a stupid trash talk combine misc idle chat, flaming shit and tech discussions, how about at least the latter get a sub cat. of its own?
General discussion for I.T./I.S./coding and related criteria.

It's kind of stupid going from topics about spyd spamming, murphy repremending him, to a vader game thread and up with compilers and VPN installments.

Default - Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:42 am
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That is up to MGB, also I agree with you.

Solo Ace - Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:36 am
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Default, do you think he doesn't know?

A few people (including me) already suggested this, but getting MGB to do this requires more threads of the serious type.

Spyed - Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:45 am
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[quote="Solo Ace"]Default, do you think he doesn't know?

A few people (including me) already suggested this, but getting MGB to do this requires more threads of the serious type.[/quote]

Make me an Admin and i'll deal with this! Lol :P

Bak - Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:58 am
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omgroflcopterbbq you should do standup</sarcasm>

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:43 pm
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I would do something about it, but anytime I suggest anything, no one cares. I was thinking about changing into what I had designed there over winter break, as I'll have the time to do little extra changes I wanted without school destroying my free time.

Dr Brain - Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:51 pm
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I care! I've posted two topics on the subject, and said that I agreed mostly with your layout.

Muskrat - Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:55 pm
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I see three good supporting posts, although they all have the same suggestion of Zone Junk merging with Trash Talk, and I agree with them on that.

Make a change if you want to, don't if you don't. It's your forums, and I hope the only negative feedback on that thread from Grav won't deter you.

Solid_Fire - Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:21 pm
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Well, for technical problems and such theres other forums for that, why would a 2D game merge with technical issues?

Solo Ace - Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:33 pm
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Because there may be people here who think about other things than this "game", too?

Heh, is this new forum for coding topics only? What about other tech stuff?

For example, if I ate my webcam, where am I supposed to ask how to put it to night-view?

THE Lucifer - Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:46 pm
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Murphy knows I'm smarter than all of you combined and that eventualy, I am right.

Also, what negative feedback?
Stupid rat.

For a "no one cares" that thread sure got a nice dozen+ replies.

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:26 pm
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THE Lucifer wrote:

For a "no one cares" that thread sure got a nice dozen+ replies.

Apparently your ability to read is as good as your ability to develop logical debates.

THE Lucifer - Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:31 am
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I don't bother to read, it's longer than two posts.

P.S.
Your new banner stinks, it's like "a wannabe" or something.

THE Lucifer - Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:36 am
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Lemme see now...[strike](work in progress, editing as I go...sheesh murphy, is this how your coding work look like? what a jumbled mess) [/strike]*yeah, I know BBcode didn't thought the HTML strike code is necessary to include...blah*

Alright, done.

General
- Announcements
  - Important news concerning the game/this website.
- Recreational Lounge
- Tech Discussion
  - I.T./I.S. and programming related issues or news.
Misc. Spam
- Trash Talk
  - No comment (too shameful). alternatively: Stupid posts and flamewars go here to die. 2nd alt.: If you absolutely must do something stupid, please, do it here.
- Zone Propoganda
  - Advertise your zone/event or rant about someone else's in here.
Game Assistance
- Client Questions
  - Questions related directly to running and using either VIE's SubSpace or Priit's Continuum clients.
- Server Questions
  - Questions related directly to running and using either Subgame or ASSS softwares for your Subspace zone.
- LVL/LVZ Questions
  - Have a problem with your LVZ or LVL?
- Bot Questions
  - Having a problem running your bot? Getting weird errors you don't understand? Ask here for help with MERV, TWCore, and more.
Development
- ASSS Customization
  - Creating a new module? Expanding on someone else's project? Want to suggest new features for the server?
- Bot/Client Programming
  - Post programming questions related to MERV, TWCore, and more or regarding creating a new client for the game here.
- The Classified Ads
  - Need staff members? Require a host? Want a certain TileSet, LVZ or Bot for your zone? Post here.

In no particular order;
Canges made as follows:

General Questions and ASSS Questions merged in to Server Questions.
Client Questions added for properly handling client tech support, which in the past was thrown in the general Qs or onto TT (which isn't a suitable place for dealing with it).
Non-Subspace Related Coding gets merged with the Tech Discussion.
Server Suggestions gets merged with ASSS Customization.
Chatnet Protocol gets merged with Bot Programming (don't see anyone making a viable client, but most try to make bots, it could also go under ASSS because the protocol is issued by the server, and network handling optimization is server-derived first and the client is secondary and essentialy, bots are clients).
Zone Junk retains an independent forum, renamed to Zone Propoganda and placed alongside TT under a spam category.
Misc User Apps disbanded, its threads reallocated and distributed properly among the various Development-category forums.
Trash Talk split for strict flame/spam (a good place for ban threads such as that lepper colony or wtfever shit, the spyed inquisition and other unrelated stupid petty wars of spammers).
Recreational Lounge established for misc idle chatter, as long as it's an intelligent/fun one.

Additional points/considerations:

1.
I want Tech Dis to be strictly for IT/IS/coding and recrational for our general "look, I found pandora website for music lovers, look GW bush said the economic depression is diminishing, look blah blah blah, check out this cool game I found" etc.
As said, flame/spam/utter fucking retardecy go to the TT.

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I guess we can throw TT back into General-category and eliminate the Zone Propoganda.
Thing is, are zone advertisings considered S.P.A.M.?
I know they're ussualy quite Pointless, I know some perceive them as Annoying, they're certainly Messages, however(but), are they Stupid? I don't think so; There's nothing stupid about wanting to advertise your zone.
Perhaps the best thing, would be to either restrict "rants" to actual rants/oppinions, instead of full blown flamewar/trash talk, or seal the propoganda for advertising alone and remove rants to the trash talk...

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:20 pm
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THE Lucifer wrote:

General Questions and ASSS Questions merged in to Server Questions.
Client Questions added for properly handling client tech support, which in the past was thrown in the general Qs or onto TT (which isn't a suitable place for dealing with it).
Non-Subspace Related Coding gets merged with the Tech Discussion.
Server Suggestions gets merged with ASSS Customization.
Chatnet Protocol gets merged with Bot Programming (don't see anyone making a viable client, but most try to make bots, it could also go under ASSS because the protocol is issued by the server, and network handling optimization is server-derived first and the client is secondary and essentialy, bots are clients).
Zone Junk retains an independent forum, renamed to Zone Propoganda and placed alongside TT under a spam category.
Misc User Apps disbanded, its threads reallocated and distributed properly among the various Development-category forums.
Trash Talk split for strict flame/spam (a good place for ban threads such as that lepper colony or wtfever shit, the spyed inquisition and other unrelated stupid petty wars of spammers).
Recreational Lounge established for misc idle chatter, as long as it's an intelligent/fun one.

It is split to allow people helping them to know what advice to give them. Most people forget to post which server they are using, which bot core they are working with, etc.
Most users that get here come from either google search or front page link from SS Forum.net. They have a Technical Support specifically for client usage. The reason most client questions were moved were they were easily fixed, and then someone started to troll the topic and it became a mess.
I have future plans that need to keep third-party Subspace code split from non-Subspace code.
Server Suggestions will be merged as soon as I feel this is fine. I'll go through, pick a few that need to be placed elsewhere, then the rest go into ASSS Questions.
Chatnet will be merged on a one-by-one thread basis, as it has so few posts.
Zone Junk usually became people saying the other person stole their zone. Its main goal, attracting players to new zones and posting of zone events, failed and thus is not needed anymore.
I have future plans that need to keep third-party Subspace code split from bot code.
I believe Trash Talk is fine right now. If future problems arise, I'll handle it in an immature fashion and enact weird restrictions and cause every single person on the face of the planet to hate me. Oh wait, I believe that is how you see it.
That is what Trash Talk is for. Excluding a few specific people, which a whole new forum does not need to be permanently created for, Trash Talk was for idle chatter.

Work in progress is simple to do with the preview feature. I've noticed you've used it 0 times out of your current 115 posts. Give it a try, like Solo Ace or Smong, who preview their post more than a third of the time before posting.

THE Lucifer - Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:47 pm
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True, however the bot section isn't split, do you suggest we split that one as well, perhaps a new cat.?
Alright, but we still inccur quite a few of these, wouldn't it be better to house them under a purposed forum and remove excess irrelevant replies instead of tossing them into TT?
I don't see how that collide with the current stracture. Non-SS code is taken to the Tech Discussion while SS-related code is distributed among the proper development sections.
N/A.
N/A.
Then merge into TT and place TT back in general?
Bots ARE 3rd party code...again I fail to see the problem without more detailed specifics regarding your "plans".
N/A.
Trash talk should be what its name represents - trash : spam, flames, etc. If you want it to include normal chat then a required renaming is in order.

What of the Tech forum, then?

I prefer to use the edit function than bothering with previews.
I was never a fan of the preview feature.

Dr Brain - Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:02 pm
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Problem is, Grav, that what you think of as intelligent conversation and what everyone else things of as intelligent conversation are radically different things. A forum that only allows intelligent conversation would probably end up moderating you entirely out.