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Doggeti - Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:09 am
Post subject: Continuum Map & Lvz Editor

General Notice: CMLE is an editor like SSME/CLE/CLIT. It is coded in Visual Basic and thus designed for Windows. I cannot garantee that it will work on a Windows emulation under any other OS. CMLE was tested on WinXP, so I don't know if it will work on other versions of Windows (though it should).

Have fun with it

Current Version: BETA 1

Version Notes:
This is a beta version which means
a) The program may be unstable. Expect some crashes.
b) There will still be bugs.
c) All planned features of version 1.0 are now included but not thoroughly tested. Especially WYSIWYG map object edititng has been included in quite a short time and is very basic.

Please let me know of any bugs by posting here.

Install Instructions:
1) Download the .rar archive. (RAR)
2) Unpack it to any folder.
3) If it does not run, try moving all files except the .exe to your system folder.
OR
1) Download the installer. (EXE)
2) Run it.

Older versions:
- ALPHA 1: RAR

Feature List:
| since BETA 1
-- LVZ editing
-- progressbar
-- zoom (1:8; 4:1)
| since ALPHA 1
-- tile groups: the most advanced feature. put tiles in a group and later all tiles in one group will adjust to each other. you can have as many groups for one map as you want. group information is stored with the map (<mapname>.grp in the same folder).
-- tabbed mapping
-- cut/copy/paste selections
-- fill and mirror selections
-- undo/redo (1 step)
-- several painting tools: Pencil, Eraser, Pipette, Rectangle(empty/filled), Elipse(empty/filled), Floodfill, Line, Segmented Line
-- zoom (2:1; 1:1; 1:2; 1:4)
-- grid can be turned off
-- support for 3 mouse buttons
-- draw with the 'empty' tile
-- special objects: wormhole, station, big and small asteroid (draw with pencil tool by pressing Ctrl)
-- 'quick pick': pick a tile by pressing Shift while clicking it with the Pencil tool
-- radar
-- tile replacement (map or selection wide)

Plans for next version (1.0):
- Killing bugs

GREEN = DONE
BLUE = PARTLY DONE
BLACK = UNTOUCHED
RED = CANCELED

Maverick - Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:35 am
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If possible please make it runnable without a setup. Setups are very annoying for such "simple" programs imo. If not, please make it an english setup, kinda weird to have it in german.

For the program (see screenshot):
- Is it supposed to be german? :/
- Ugly under construction sign, but ok - no problem
- You might want to inform the user more that the program is busy doing something, f.ex filling up large sections of the map.

So far it looks quite good, haven't really got deep into it though.

Doggeti - Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:44 am
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I don't like Setups for such small programs neither. But VB needs its own Runtime libraries and to put all those files in the correct folder a Setup is needed.
I added a link to the .exe in the original post. For all those of you who want/like/need to find and install all libraries themselves.

I have english texts in the RES file. VB was supposed to choose that version which fits your region settings in Windows. I will have a closer look at that. I have never worked with that tool before.

As for more help messages, manual, tutorials. They will come later. I think most of the icons are quite self explaining.

Maverick - Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:46 am
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Isn't it possible to have the libraries placed in the same directory as the program itself?

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:49 am
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If possible, allow greater zooming-out abilities, and probably when you add LVZ support, zooming in abilities.

Also, while randomly clicking in the group second, it caused a run-time error. I'm not sure exactly how I did it, since I don't know german and was trying to figure out the buttons based upon what they did. I created a new group, clicked on a bunch of tiles, saw the pretty box down there being replaced, click the left button a few times, clicked some more tiles and that button again, still looked like it did nothing. So I tried the right button, and it blew up.

Doggeti - Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:59 pm
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I updated the files. The program should display english text by default now. You don't have to reinstall. Just replace the old .exe with the new one.

By the way, if you want to help me localize CMLE send me a PM here on the board and tell me what language you could translate it into. I'll then send you a document with all the Strings.

CypherJF - Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:27 pm
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Most active developers have the MS VB runtimes from one project or another. If they don't have it, they can easily download it from SSDL, or some search engine search; as well as a simple lookup on MS' website. Just give me a 7zip, rar, zip, with the essential files.

Maverick - Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:47 pm
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I believe there is a visual basic runtime files package downloadable from microsoft.

EDIT: Here: http://tinyurl.com/6pqsn

Smong - Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:36 pm
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As I paint tiles it seems to be delayed. Are you processing 1 event every cycle, or processing all available events every cycle?

Doggeti - Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:05 pm
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Here I have a Screenshot of BETA 1 for you. Enjoy

i88gerbils - Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:33 pm
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I demand a better name. CMLE or cMALE just doesn't cut it.

Chambahs - Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:24 pm
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yea, why dont you stick with the program and give it an acronym that has a sexual relation to it like everyone else....

Doggeti - Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:21 am
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After I read i88gerbils' post I thought about the name and came to the conclusion that he's right. Continuum Map & Lvz Editor implies that you can edit the Lvz itself, which you can't with this program and which wasn't my intention.

So here are two suggestions for a new name:

1) Continuum Level & Ini Editor (CLIE)
2) Continuum Level & Ini Constructor (CLIC)

I prefer the second one just because the abbreviation sounds better to me.

All of you who even care about the name may reply and tell me their opinion.

i88gerbils - Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:51 am
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With the neat tile feature I might pick an an abbreviation like CMM (custom/continuum Map Manager). Or you could name it in German for other wacky combinations! :d

Continuum Utility for Map Management/Editor

CUMM.

CU 4 ME.

CypherJF - Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:36 am
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I prefer no more stupid innapropriate acronyms.

Maverick - Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:10 am
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same here, just use professional ones. CMLE is fine.

Dr Brain - Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:22 am
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Agreed. Keep the CMLE.

Chambahs - Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:02 am
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Go with CUM, stick with tradition

Cyan~Fire - Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:10 am
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And then get this forum blocked at my school? No thanks.

SamHughes - Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:17 pm
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Maverick wrote:

If possible please make it runnable without a setup. Setups are very annoying for such "simple" programs imo.

"But I am le tired."

Doggeti - Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:09 am
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I will keep CMLE because:

- the majority wants it
- I got familiar with it
- the other proposals aren't better

Discussion closed.

CypherJF - Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:51 am
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CMLE, whenever I see it, I think of SMILE.

Much better than ASSS.

i88gerbils - Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:00 am
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I'm a professional. And if I mispronounce my Company's abbreviations it sounds like ANUS.

Doggeti - Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:08 pm
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After having some issues with my registry in the last few days i finally was able to get the problems solved by reinstalling my VB IDE. I can't wait to get back into coding. The LVZ is about 80% done. If everything works well I might release BETA 1 this upcoming weekend. In other words: In two weeks or later

Sai - Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:04 am
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Might be nice if you have it support the 'unused' tiles, they serve other purposes.

Bak - Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:23 am
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To what extent do you plan to include lvz/ini functionality? Just displaying them or completely editing the ini/lvz (adding / removing images, setting locations / layers / modes / displaytimes)?

SamHughes - Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:08 pm
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SamHughes wrote:

"But I am le tired."

Sorry. Never mind.

Trained - Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:51 am
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Bak wrote:

To what extent do you plan to include lvz/ini functionality? Just displaying them or completely editing the ini/lvz (adding / removing images, setting locations / layers / modes / displaytimes)?

I would like to know this myself..

I wish ZnZ would of finished his editor, it looked very sexy.

Doggeti - Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:53 pm
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First of all, I apologize for the delay of BETA 1. I have been very busy with other stuff and this might go on some weeks.

Sai wrote:

Might be nice if you have it support the 'unused' tiles, they serve other purposes.

This is planned for v2.

Bak wrote:

To what extent do you plan to include lvz/ini functionality? Just displaying them or completely editing the ini/lvz (adding / removing images, setting locations / layers / modes / displaytimes)?

It's like a built in LIE2 + WYSIWYG.

Doggeti - Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:02 am
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After some weeks full of studying and working I am happy to see X-Mas hollidays coming near. I hope I'll find some time to go on developing this neat piece of software.
Don't expect BETA 1 lying under the chistmas tree though

This won't happen. But who knows what the new year will bring.

Merry Christmas and CYA in 2006!

Purge - Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:29 pm
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Someone is already beating you.

Doggeti - Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:39 pm
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OK, here it is!

I present to you CMLE BETA 1

I updated the first post, so go there to find download links.

Quan Chi2 - Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:55 pm
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excellente mi amigo!

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:28 am
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Doggeti wrote:

I present to you CMLE BETA 1
I updated the first post, so go there to find download links.

Feel free to post in the Quick Links thread with information about your application.

Doggeti - Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:28 pm
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Here's a quick update.

I have played around with DirectX + VB and I am surprised how smooth it works. After some hours I am able to create a DX window, load bitmaps into the application and display them on the screen. As this is all an editor needs to be able to do I plan to rewrite the render loop for version 1.1 using DX. I hope that this will greatly improve the overall performance of the program.

Samapico - Wed May 17, 2006 1:27 pm
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hm, I wasnt aware of that program (couldnt try it yet) ... but is it still being worked on? Will it be open source?
Me and Drake are also working on an editor in VB... we focused on the mapping part for now, but plan on including LVZ's as well... If CMLE was to be open source, it might be useful for both projects to exchange useful information