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(Deactived B l a h e r) - Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:18 pm
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Some of you have seen my crapy zone up called DD Ultimate paintball and woundered what a whacko I am well I'm not really doing paintball I'm just to lazy to change the name and it's just DD because I'm running it off my 56k computer so I'm just really useing that name for testing but me and my server admin will get a server up that's 24/7 with SSDD hosting with satalite connection. I know the pub is really sucky right now but read the news and you can take a look at some arena's me and a couple of ppl are doing. Also look at the news for rules and stuff (tip: every thing is explained in the news SO READ IT DAMN IT) but I'll put the rules up here for when we get the server up if you can't get on while my computer's up.
Requirments-
-Must have a good main arena with your OWN shipset, set, Titleset, Bots, and Lvzs.
-Must have at least 3 bots for protection, help, and hosting
-Have at least 10 good sub arena's
-Must make your own sets for each arena that we will not provide

Rules-
-Can only have 10 bots and no more
-Whole continuum server for your zone may not contain more then 5 Gb
-May not be used for advertisement or profit
-You can not steal any files from any zone unless you have done %50 work on it or totally recreated it
-We are not responisble for any illeagle activaty you have committed

so if you have time to wait to be hosted (about a couple of months

) and need alot of room for your zone we'll have the server up as soon as possible

:Warning!: if server is not up by winter this means I have gone crazy and killed my server admin or I'm dead and KFT has forgot what SubSpace is.

1stStrike - Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:25 pm
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What the crap.

Purge - Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:47 pm
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Ditto.

D1st0rt - Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:58 pm
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Must have at least 3 bots but no more than 10? Its ok to steal if you have changed half of it? 10 subarenas??!

Purge - Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:00 pm
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-Whole continuum server for your zone may not contain more then 5 Gb

5GB?! That won't even work...

And perhaps you can supply us on the server specs?

Screennam123 - Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:35 am
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.........

Purge - Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:38 am
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...And I don't even see this server on the DIR list.

myke - Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:28 pm
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blah-er wrote:

SSDD hosting with satalite connection.

that type of connection is very unreliable from what i've heard and read...i'm not really sure considering i don't have it nor have i ever had it

Purge+ wrote:

...And I don't even see this server on the DIR list.

he said in a couple months

Purge - Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:21 pm
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Oh okay.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:24 pm
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Ya I need to change a fews things I know that's why it's still not up yet but our Satlite connection is very secure I assure you we use Direct satlite. And when I mean you must have three bots and no more then 10 is that you must have 1 bot for maybe protection (like IP checking and lag checking), 1 bot for automatic hosting in a sub arena, and one bot for some thing like rank or what ever you want to keep ppl comeing to your zone. You can't have more then 10 bots for your arena for server lagging reasons (all bots for zone will run on a differnt server with the same IP as the server( We will do this by haveing a secound server connected from the main server)). And you need at least 10 good sub arena's to keep ppl happy, entertained, and keep comeing to the zone. I will let you use up to 5 GB for each zone for lvz's, lvl's, and the main part of the server. You can't rip any lvl's (unless you did the work) from any zones. The server's are Win 2000 server's and the computer are Dell XPS That KFT and I have customly redid making the hard drive bigger and the procceser faster along with the new connection.
You will set your ini settings I don't really care what you use since this is your zone and we will keep track of the billing, profiles, and server. For your bots you send use the Plugins and the settings and we'll set them up.

Maverick - Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:59 pm
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You know where to locate the ENTER key on your keyboard? IF you do, use it more often

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:03 pm
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I just like to make things extreamly long so ppl have trouble reading it

D1st0rt - Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:32 pm
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I think your absurd requirements will lead to poor zone design, but that's just me.

Anonymous - Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:37 pm
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Just tell me what you think is wrong with them and I'll fix or change them That's why I posted it up so ppl can tell what they think so I can make it the best for them.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:38 pm
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Anonymous wrote:

Just tell me what you think is wrong with them and I'll fix or change them That's why I posted it up so ppl can tell what they think so I can make it the best for them.

WTF

it keeps loggin me off srry but that was me.

Screennam123 - Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:43 pm
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This makes me wanna put the specs of my server up here.....

Purge - Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:51 pm
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Wooo, me too.

newb - Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:44 am
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I did not understand the first post.

...and I don't want to understand it. (Thank you d1s

)

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:15 pm
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ALright put your specs up if you want I need to know from the ppl what they want form this and what I should do these specs are just basic starting crap intill I can fix all the bugs out.

Post your comments and what you want to be changed

D1st0rt - Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:09 pm
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At least remove the minimum bot requirement and the 10 subarena minimum requirement. Those are typical trademarks of low quality zones.

Screennam123 - Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:15 am
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Windows Server 2003
1.6 Ghz AMD
256 RAM
200 GB Hard Drive
Small Business DSL 3MB Down 4MB up (up speed varies but average 4)
new lynksys router
30 min backup power supply
No monitor, mouse, or keyboard its all done my remote desktop

Not much more to say......

Maverick - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:51 am
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Screennam123 wrote:

server is professionally hosted I assume?

Screennam123 - Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:14 am
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its hosted right out of the house..... built the server and everything, me and a friend set it up just so we can have a secure server

Maverick - Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:26 am
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how reliable would you rate it then? (be honest)

Purge - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:05 pm
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Here's mine:

: SSRD Server Spectrals :

* Intel Pentium III Processor on 1.5 GHZ CPU
* Cable Modem with 2.4MB Downstream/1.5MB Upstream
* Operating System: Windows XP Pro
* 256 MB SDRAM
* FTP & BanG Access
* Two bot cores of any type accepted
* On 24/7 with reliable support
* Runs on the SSR Billing
* 120 GB HDD
* Hosts both ASSS and subgame

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:28 pm
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Ok I'm going to change the bot min to 1 just to for security or just to attrack more ppl useing a rank and creds and I'm changeing the sub arena min to 2 this could be any thing whcih should be simple like elim and duel. I'm also requireing a DEV zone for each arena (since Purge told me what a DEV zone is

) and the reason why I'm useing win 2000 is because I heard a bit XP server isn't that good. But we just might change since alot of ppl are now useing it. We are also putting up FTP access and we might put up SQL.

Here are our stats a little better in detail
*Dell XPS Personly Redid (It took the warrenty out of it but at least it's better)
*Windows 2000 server Pro
*Intel Pentium III Processor
*Satlite Direct Modem
*250 GB Hard Drive
*256 MB SDRAM
*can have up to 10 bots (can not have more then 3 AI bot)
*22/5 reliable support right now intill we get more staff
*We're going to run it off of SSDD Billing
*2 hour back power supplie with surge protector (the thing is the size of a car battery:P)

Purge - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:53 pm
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Addition to mine: ASSS and subgame hosting.

Cyan~Fire - Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:36 pm
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2000 is awesome.

Also, you guys and your big HDDs. Are you actually going to let any zone use any more than 50MB?

Purge - Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:58 pm
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I used to host a Counter-Strike game server and a webserver on mine.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:15 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

2000 is awesome.

Also, you guys and your big HDDs. Are you actually going to let any zone use any more than 50MB?

I'm letting each zone use up to 3 GM so it won't be a progmlem for memory space for any body that has a zone on our server.

Purge - Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:01 pm
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3GB is a pretty large amount just for a Continuum zone.

Cyan~Fire - Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:57 pm
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Well, with 10 MERVBots... each with 5 plugins... it'll need it all for swap space

Purge - Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:26 pm
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I guess you're right.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:27 am
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Really we're going to have tree servers one for the zone server, one for the billing, and one for the bots so it dosen't lag the zone server.
so really the reallt reason why we have a big max memory is if you have so many zones like tw that your just sub arena crazy like I am

Cyan~Fire - Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:57 am
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You don't need a separate server for the biller. As long as you use catid's biller, it won't use many system resources at all. With your bot-crazy setup, I'd suggest throwing the biller with the subgames, since the MERVs will most likely be using more resources.

A380 - Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:32 am
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blah-er wrote:

*We're going to run it off of SSDD Billing

I dont see any billing program as such.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:14 pm
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SpeedUP! wrote:

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I dont see any billing program as such.

We don't have the biller up yet we just have got the zone server up right now and we're working on the billing at this moment.

Purge - Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:18 pm
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What are the billing commands?

Anonymous - Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:21 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

What are the billing commands?

We're useing CatId's biller so it's ?man to start with you know this Purge+ you have your own billing

CypherJF - Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:27 pm
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SSI runs their own biller that is open to anyone; just join on rather than making a ton of micro-biller-networks which mean nothing. Give up your almighty-power hunger, and live with a LVL0 group-op (or w/e)...

Purge - Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:32 pm
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Yeah, SSR, SSU, and SSI is enough.

CypherJF - Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:05 pm
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Just do SSI and SSC. :X

Purge - Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:18 pm
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Surely people would need more than that...

D1st0rt - Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:05 pm
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pfft, the only reason for having more than ssc and ssi is that people are greedy powermongers and don't want to settle for somebody else being in charge

Purge - Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:08 pm
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...Or they're kind enough to host people who can't host themselves?

D1st0rt - Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:37 pm
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Talking about billers purge

Cyan~Fire - Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:27 pm
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Indeed. Purge, I'm definitely at a different location from SSI's servers, and yet I run off SSI billing. Really, it makes the entire billing system far more worth it if multiple hosts use one biller. Why the heck do group ops exist anyway?

1stStrike - Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:38 pm
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It's there if anyone needs or wants it. I don't try to make them use it though. They have the right to run their own billing if they want to.

I do agree that having a bunch of scattered billers is silly. The big thing keeping SSC players off non-SSC zones is the fact that all the zones aren't connected and they can't chat to anyone else. But, trying to unite servers is pointless because nobody wants to use the same biller. Others have tried and failed due to uncooperative server ops.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:53 pm
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Well, there's no way to force a fellow host to switch over, but you can dispel myths such as insecurity and inability to do it in the first place.

Purge - Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:12 am
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Yeah, I understand what you mean about too many billers. However, doesn't SSC look for quality servers that they can add their biller to?

Cyan~Fire - Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:47 pm
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Yes, SSC only accepts certain zones. SSI, however, has given me my own group with which I can do whatever I want. Sounds good to me.

1stStrike - Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:03 pm
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In order to get SSC billing on your server you need to run a quality server in a real data center, be liked by at least some of the SSC so they can vouch for you and have quality zones that attract players on your server to warrant the SSC access.

That's pretty much how it goes. SSI didn't start out with SSC access. We earned it. We've been running for over 2 years now and still going strong.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:31 pm
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I don't know how this got off topic O.O from SSDD Biller to SSC and SSI Biller But any ways I've decided a couple of things

Where going to have three servers and the billing server
BDS Billing -Billing server
SSDD -For High class themed zones and bot sub games
SSDD-A -Our ASSS Server and runs off of SSDD (I've decided to make a asss since Purge has been anoying me about it latetly

)
SSBT -Average zone Server open to the public for any zone
SSSC -A Server for crapy zones must be themed and have no bots

I think I have pretty much every thing moved about and we're ready to set the servers up if I can get KFT to get multible connections.

1stStrike - Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:54 pm
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Yea, I think it's pretty retarded to have 4 "servers". Are any of these actually run off a decent box or are they all dsl/cable connections? If so, I'd quit while you're ahead.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:56 pm
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1stStrike wrote:

Yea, I think it's pretty retarded to have 4 "servers". Are any of these actually run off a decent box or are they all dsl/cable connections? If so, I'd quit while you're ahead.

Yes there all desent I was thinking of running them off of T1 and there not 3 server really it's just three hard drives

1stStrike - Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:18 pm
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blah-er wrote:

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Yes there all desent I was thinking of running them off of T1 and there not 3 server really it's just three hard drives

Why have different names? It makes no sense, plus it'll only confuse people in the end. Make one server name and stick to it. A T1 is decent however you realize it's really not all that fast right? It's 1.5 mbps up/down which is a good start but I wouldn't put too many players on it.

Don't forget redundancy. What kind of back up do you have on it? If the power goes out will that T1 still be running? Is it in a server environment or can mom come along and accidently hit the power button while she's cleaning?

Also, where is the server located? Location plays a big part in it. You want to make sure that people around the US get good routing to the server too. Europe is to be taking into consideration as well, however the europeans are in the minority in this game. Sorry to all you euros out there

There's a lot to consider before just throwing up a server.

Purge - Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:44 pm
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blah-er wrote:

SSDD -For High class themed zones and bot sub games
SSDD-A -Our ASSS Server and runs off of SSDD (I've decided to make a asss since Purge has been anoying me about it latetly

)
SSBT -Average zone Server open to the public for any zone
SSSC -A Server for crapy zones must be themed and have no bots

Why are you ripping off my ideas? And I wasn't annoying you about anything.

Pincode - Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:20 pm
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As 1stStrike suggested, it's pretty pointless having a different server name for every one of your hard drives.

A single T1 connection may be sufficient for small, undeveloped zones, but you'll run into problems if or when those zones of yours grow.

Also, when talking about redundancy, it's a good idea to have a redundant connection aswell, from two or more different providers. Just in case one dies off, you always have a fail over connection.

Just a few pointers.

Good Luck,

Pincode

Anonymous - Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:42 am
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I'll have the server up once I clean my basement and blah-er says he's not stealing your idea and not annoying him, he's thanking you for the idea to go into ASSS . Now I need to go we're in class right now

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(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:09 pm
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I don't know how KFT found this since he dosen't even know what subspace is (I hope he wasn't looking at my Web history

) but anyways we will have back up conections other then T1 and I probly will get something better then T1. And I don't think mom O.o will be cleaning my house if for some reason she decides to come over and clean randomly we have a back up power supplie out of reach unless she decides to rip open the basment walls and dose something

. We are located in NE Ohio around Canton/Akron if you live in Ohio. So if your located in NY no worrys and for europe it's I guess close to to it :\ commpaired to Somewhere like Calafornia. And the reson we have more then one server is to keep lag to a min and if a couple of newbs or noobs (blah-er) have bad thoughts about a certain one of our zones they will still go to one of our other servers. I just really useing more then one because we have like 15 servers and I'm just useing it as a excuse to get one of them running.

Like I said too we have sat and We have Road runner too and if all eles fails for our last resort We'll put them up on our 56K

. Which I don't see happening since I have alot of staff who has brodband

Purge - Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:05 pm
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Satellite and RoadRunner are not good for hosting zones. And the stuff about your mom sweeping stuff out - how will we know that your server is 100% reliable and has limited downtime?

larrythehamster - Thu May 19, 2005 4:46 pm
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Link to apply for hosting plz?

Purge - Thu May 19, 2005 4:49 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

http://purge.webhop.org/host.html

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Thu May 19, 2005 8:04 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

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I won't go to that host since purge isn't even around any more for his own server. If you want a good host

. I'll have the website for apply as soon as I get the continuum server up.

Purge - Thu May 19, 2005 9:10 pm
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What are you talking about? SSR is still alive and is recovering from their public downfall that Confess+ caused a while back.

(Deactived B l a h e r) - Fri May 20, 2005 3:37 pm
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I see you in Halo more then I see you on your servers lol your not even around for your own server.

Purge - Fri May 20, 2005 4:03 pm
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If you didn't know, I quit SSR a while back. I'm also Smod in Halo now, so I'm active enough there.

newb - Mon May 23, 2005 4:40 pm
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The noobs these days! :O

Purge - Mon May 23, 2005 4:44 pm
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Well, there WAS a big argument on it in here.