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rootbear75 - Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:25 pm
Post subject: Which is easier to use and set up? ASSS or subgame?

I would like mostly facts. Some opinions could be added like if i don't have a certain skill, subgame/asss will be harder to use.

So which is it?
ASSS?
or SUBGAME?
my vote is subgame because the conf settings on ASSS is too confusing
Even after going through the tutorials.

Solo Ace - Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:47 pm
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I found setting up ASSS easier for the first time than setting Subgame up for the first time.
Currently I'd say Subgame would be easier to setup, just because there's less to configure.
You shouldn't compare these two by how easy they are to setup since both are very different from eachother.
I like ASSS more than Subgame because it makes it easy to add functionality to the server.

CypherJF - Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:34 pm
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Ah, subgame is steady and true.

Night_Fox - Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:03 pm
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Subgame

Muskrat - Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:56 pm
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ASSS, cuz thats how I like it.

Bak - Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:15 pm
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running an ASSS server invovles double clicking a .bat file, while running a subgame server requires editing your server.ini, starting a billing server, and then running an executable... why people would vote subgame is beyond me

50% Packetloss - Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:30 pm
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ASSS is much easier to setup. But Subgame is easier to use for people who are new to servers and such. Start with subgame and then work your way up to ASSS. The conf files are easy to setup, plus they are split up in a logical way with ASSS, so I would think setttings would be easier to change with ASSS.

Maverick - Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:10 pm
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wow...

Quote:

Warning: mysql_num_rows(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1139

Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1141

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Warning: mysql_result(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /home/minego/public_html/forums/viewtopic.php on line 1143

Night_Fox - Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:21 pm
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Yeah, I noticed that too.

CypherJF - Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:42 pm
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seems to appear on poll-topics.

D1st0rt - Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:22 pm
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Its the same thing that was talked about earlier, it has to do with the end date. I'm too lazy to find the topic it was discussed in tho

Cyan~Fire - Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:50 pm
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For me, ASSS was easier, but most likely (as 50% said) because I'm now rather used to that kind of stuff.

rootbear75 - Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:28 pm
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also, i dont know C++. How could i work with the modules that way?
bots dont use C++ (unless you're making one). all you have to do is edit the .ini file

Purge - Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:24 pm
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If you have the module compiled, add it in the modules.conf without the comment ";;".

Solo Ace - Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:41 pm
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rootbear75 wrote:

also, i dont know C++. How could i work with the modules that way?
bots dont use C++ (unless you're making one). all you have to do is edit the .ini file

What you said there is messed up.

Bots and their plugins (except for a few) are written in C++, and ASSS modules are written in C.
Indeed, "all you have to do is edit the .ini file", but that would be the same for ASSS modules too, this has nothing to do with C or C++.

Smong - Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:39 am
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You don't need to know how to program to run asss. You just need to be capable of double clicking.

1. Double click the archive to extract it.
2. Double click asss.bat.
3. Double click continum.
4. Type this in:

Quote:

ctrl + z, alt + c, "blah", alt, "127.0.0.1", alt, "5000", enter, enter

Steps 3 and 4 you have to do with subgame as well.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:19 am
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Alt? Don't you mean tab to switch between fields?

D1st0rt - Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:35 am
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Double clicking is tricky

Smong - Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:39 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Alt? Don't you mean tab to switch between fields?

Uh yeah that's what I meant. I got a bit carried away with the crispitityness of the alt + c.

Anonymous - Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:17 pm
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Smong wrote:

4. Type this in:

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ctrl + z, alt + c, "blah", alt, "127.0.0.1", alt, "5000", enter, enter

wtf?
that made no sense whatsoever.

Be nice if you could do it like Section:Variable or w/e.

rootbear75 - Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:20 pm
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btw, that last post was me... forgot to log in...

EdTheInvincible - Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:12 pm
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apparently you forgot step 3, root

Mine GO BOOM - Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:52 pm
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Maverick wrote:

wow...

Code: Show/Hide

Fixed. Found that the crappy mod I put into place that appears on line 1141 assumes that the last SQL connection is for the forums, and doesn't use the standard $db connection. This problem occured because the ASSS Wiki link on the top uses a one-time SQL connection to the Wiki database to figure out how many topics recently changed since your last visit.

rootbear75 - Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:41 am
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what language is that?
javascript? it cant be HTML

Gravitron - Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:14 am
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php API-ing MySQL?

I have no idea what I just said...

50% Packetloss - Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:21 am
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http://www.php.net/

lol, I'd like to see some javascript connect to a mysql database.

CypherJF - Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:35 am
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:X - scripting language talk to a dynamic server.. Hmm..

and new breed of spyware begins.. rotfl.

myke - Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:55 am
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i'd say definitely ASSS since you don't really have to edit anything at all and ASSS works better for me since it doesn't take up more than 5% cpu at one time unlike subgame which takes up 30%+ at a time

rootbear75 - Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:06 pm
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my computer is pretty fast, so the 30% doesnt really affect it that much.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:16 pm
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30% on a faster CPU is the same as 30% on a slower one, lol.

rootbear75 - Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:29 pm
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I just dont "feel" the 30% eating up my computer.