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Trash Talk - My ol' friend, HALO.

Anonymous - Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:12 pm
Post subject: My ol' friend, HALO.
Halo list of abuses:

#1 - 1 week ban for "advertising".

I will admit that I harassed the Mods a little, so I sort of deserved this. HOWEVER, they didn't even tell Agurus, the Owner, what happened.

That's because they specifically say in their Mod Protocol (Quote):

Advertising: this is something to be cracked down on.

#2 - 10,000 minute Zip (Do the math, roughly one week)

Ahem.. anyone say "No reason"?

I was never given any reason for this, other than "You're staff at War Era" (Halo's rival zone).

Let me compare this to a 3 day Zip for excessive spamming, swearing, and, I believe, minor slurs.

#3 -

Since then I have been continually zipped for no reason, never given a reason by Mods, and also told "You're staff at War Era".

I've been zipped straight through for 2 days now, and I currently have 1200-1400 minutes (Eh, I keep forgetting.) until I can talk again.

I'm just waiting...

Oh, yes, since I'm too lazy to go back and backspace that:

I was zipped for 1440 a few days ago, someone lifted my Zip, I was zipped yesterday afternoon, then this afternoon, right as my Zip ended.. SURPRISE, someone showed up, Zipped me, and was gone.

ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE!
CypherJF - Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:18 pm
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Let em ruin their own zone. In the meantime, come visit SSCC Omega Fire. sa_tongue.gif
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:16 pm
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...Or not. sa_tongue.gif
CypherJF - Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:10 pm
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Aw comon... should come for at least 5-10 minutes. Just to check it out.
D1st0rt - Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:26 pm
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Oooh I should go see how long it takes to be banned
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:22 pm
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CypherJF wrote:
Aw comon... should come for at least 5-10 minutes. Just to check it out.


Ah, I recced for a good hour every other day from this week. sa_tongue.gif
Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:32 pm
Post subject: Re: My ol' friend, HALO.
Freakman Bob wrote:
Halo list of abuses:

#1 - 1 week ban for "advertising".

I will admit that I harassed the Mods a little, so I sort of deserved this. HOWEVER, they didn't even tell Agurus, the Owner, what happened.

That's because they specifically say in their Mod Protocol (Quote):

Advertising: this is something to be cracked down on.

#2 - 10,000 minute Zip (Do the math, roughly one week)

Ahem.. anyone say "No reason"?

I was never given any reason for this, other than "You're staff at War Era" (Halo's rival zone).

Let me compare this to a 3 day Zip for excessive spamming, swearing, and, I believe, minor slurs.

#3 -

Since then I have been continually zipped for no reason, never given a reason by Mods, and also told "You're staff at War Era".

I've been zipped straight through for 2 days now, and I currently have 1200-1400 minutes (Eh, I keep forgetting.) until I can talk again.

I'm just waiting...

Oh, yes, since I'm too lazy to go back and backspace that:

I was zipped for 1440 a few days ago, someone lifted my Zip, I was zipped yesterday afternoon, then this afternoon, right as my Zip ended.. SURPRISE, someone showed up, Zipped me, and was gone.

ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE!


isnt war era...like dead?
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:33 pm
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Yeah, it has been shut down for hacking up multiple Continuum clients on one PC just to get their pop up to about 30. The sysop and the owner did this which is a disgrace. icon_mad.gif
Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:34 pm
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Purge+ wrote:
Yeah, it has been shut down for hacking up multiple Continuum clients on one PC just to get their pop up to about 30. The sysop and the owner did this which is a disgrace. icon_mad.gif


it was going pretty well too....
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:35 pm
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I don't think it was going that well. That zone was soon to go down someday... sa_tongue.gif
Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:39 pm
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it was decent, nothing original - similar to yer typical 1 hit kill with bomb infantry zones
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:41 pm
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Yup, with strikingly similar layout to Metal Gear's tiles and map layout. sa_tongue.gif
Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:44 pm
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the settings were gearing more towards halo ctf however.
Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:51 pm
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Yeah, another downfall. icon_wink.gif
Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:55 pm
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Halo was great when it first started...but chickened out and implemented in the popular 1 hit kill bombs...currently its decent
Night_Fox - Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:42 am
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Thats called "abusing", typical Agurus.
lp_street_soldier - Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:32 am
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I think they put up strict rules (Agurus and staff) to cut down on people who come in and constantly abuse. I guess Agurus and some staff can be a bit ban happy, but I guess he must have a reason. Otherwise, if he doesn't, this is definatly abusing.

@ Cypher - SSCC Omega Fire <.< pfft, come SSCI DragonBall Z
CypherJF - Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:21 pm
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@LP : LoL -- perhaps lesson is -- @ALL: try out other zones? icon_smile.gif
Anonymous - Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:24 pm
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Technically, we had about 25 pop... Beef only set up 4 people.

.........................................................................................


And no, they don't have a reason.

Although Muskrat_24 has asked me to add this note:

Agurus was apparently behind all this, although I don't remember if I mentioned that DC+ accused me of mass advertising, just to bring in fresh abuse?

Heh, anyway, it was just the big guys that did this.

No offense to the people that I know will read this follow-up post, but they don't teach new staff anything anyway.

I learned just about every command, up to SysOp, and how to make setts, do levels, etc., at War Era in DEV STATE in 3 days... compare that to Halo where they teach you to host.

(Musk, I promised a good follow up post - this is good)

Indeed, when I was fired, the old Staff Coord, WaRCC told me I didn't know anything. Why? (Because you can't host)

-Compacted quote

Halo...
D1st0rt - Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:33 pm
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ugh I don't particularly care for DBZ, too super-y
Purge - Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:02 pm
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Yeah, a little too much of DBZ theme. sa_tongue.gif
Phyran - Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:07 pm
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Purge+ wrote:
Yeah, a little too much of DBZ theme. sa_tongue.gif


how did this topic switched to DBZ.....
Blindmonkey21 - Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:05 pm
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ok DBZ sucks, switched back.

Yeah I am back although not for long lol.

Anyway who cares.....Halo is a shitty zone that somehow still receives people. Just stop going there and fuck them over.
Agurus - Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:49 pm
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Heh, Halo is better than most of the other fuckin zones that are on subspace, though newbs here are jelous b/c they cant run a zone. And FMB you should ought think why you were banned, one we wont tell give you a documentery of your ban, and we have enuf proof in which we dont to hear your bullshit.

Also War era just got their ways with advertisments and threats, and we got a guy complainin you advertised, well i gues this was all the past ne ways...

And night were did you comin lol?
wow lp with me for once lol
cypher come to Halo lol
Cyan~Fire - Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:04 pm
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I'm not jealous. I get a little angry when I see Halo with material stolen from zones I host. Anger eventually boils down to bias.
Agurus - Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:56 pm
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Eh? Halo might have stolen before i took over it, but that was the past, you must admit halo is better than it used to be...
Muskrat - Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:57 pm
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Which stuff?
Purge - Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:10 pm
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I think they mean the subarenas that Zig-Zags and Lord Flash stole from other various zones. icon_confused.gif
Muskrat - Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:41 pm
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oh, yeah that was awhile ago, GD was bugging me just the other day tho....
Blindmonkey21 - Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:58 pm
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It still happened though, even though the people knew the about copyrighted material must still decided to be jackasses and steal the areans, that is not ok.
D1st0rt - Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:28 pm
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Yeah ag despite your best efforts its better than it used to be biggrin.gif
mike - Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:31 pm
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Agurus wrote:
Heh, Halo is better than most of the other fuckin zones that are on subspace, though newbs here are jelous b/c they cant run a zone. And FMB you should ought think why you were banned, one we wont tell give you a documentery of your ban, and we have enuf proof in which we dont to hear your bullshit.

Also War era just got their ways with advertisments and threats, and we got a guy complainin you advertised, well i gues this was all the past ne ways...


And night were did you comin lol?
wow lp with me for once lol
cypher come to Halo lol


[edit] let's review some words he used
Jealous*
Becuase*
Can't*
Won't*
documentary*
Enough*
Don't*
[/edit]
icon_rolleyes.gif learn to spell? =\


Dude, Halo blows I mean literally.
1. I USED TO BE STAFF AT SSZ HALO CTF
2. NONE of the moderators or smods or sysop know a nothing about what they are doing
3. i constantly see people on TW and other zones "COME TO HALO CTF OH MAN ITS SO COOL IT OWNS ALL OTHER ZONES"
4. gundam wing owns halo (and that's sad cause gundam sucks since they took away the first map)
5. plainly put you DO NOT know the first thing in hosting a zone and should be shut up for eternity or all be kicked off staff and let competent staff work there

anyone else see any other reasons i didn't want to come back to staff after it reopened?
D1st0rt - Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:22 am
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I think some of the lower non-ag staff know what they're doing
lp_street_soldier - Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:52 am
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you spelt because* wrong idiot.
Bak - Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:22 pm
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u spelt "spelled" rong mormon
Muskrat - Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:01 pm
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D1st0rt wrote:
I think some of the lower non-ag staff know what they're doing


Thank you for that point, enough of the generalizations. icon_neutral.gif
Purge - Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:15 pm
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Halo is getting better than it used to be. I don't think we should compare the past to the present anymore. icon_smile.gif
Dark Clouds+ - Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:17 pm
Post subject: The Fallacy of Post-Hoc
I don't understand what this big fuzz is about? The past is the past. Yes, every zones have experienced their ups and downs, but constantly reflecting on the past is just foolish. We should focus on the present and the future instead of mesmerizing over some stupid abuses that went on in the zone a year ago. The truth is this: no one is forcing you to come to Halo CTF, people play there because it's fun and a great zone to hang out. Sure, there are those who thinks halo might not be so great, well why don't you not open your big mouth and laissez-faire? Mike, you said that " none of the staff knows what they are doing in halo ctf". Well, i'm a sysop in halo and i have given my 110% to the zone. I'm currently the staff coordinator and i assure you that the halo staff are top-notch quality. Sure, they are not all good, but they are disciplined and well-trained. I'll end this post with the following quote: "If you don't like the zone, then don't play here. No one is forcing you to come play in halo. Let others enjoy the zone in peace. If you have nothing good to say, then don't say them at all."

-Dark Clouds+ (SSCC Halo CTF Sysop)
Purge - Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:32 pm
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Well said. sa_tongue.gif
myke - Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:20 pm
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dark, all of the power abusers are gone? like lord flash and whatnot?
Dark Clouds+ - Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:34 pm
Post subject: Lord Flash fired decades ago
Lord Flash has been axed off the staff for quite a while now, i'd say about half a year now.
Night_Fox - Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:11 am
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Halo is getting better each time I go in the zone icon_wink.gif
The only thing is wrong is their staff, some of them are really bad and some are good. Not to meation any names tongue.gif
Anonymous - Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:18 am
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5. plainly put you DO NOT know the first thing in hosting a zone and should be shut up for eternity or all be kicked off staff and let competent staff work there


Your right I don’t know how to host a zone, but do know how to run one, and we have NO abusive staff, like LF or those old sluts that used to staff, Halo is much better than it used to be. And hey I can’t do anything if TW players decide to advertise…

Quote:
4. gundam wing owns halo (and that's sad cause gundam sucks since they took away the first map)

Thats a personal comment, no thought here icon_wink.gif


Hey Dark mind giving me some of those name would be real helpful biggrin.gif.

-Agurus
Agurus - Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:20 am
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^^^Btw that was my post...
Anonymous - Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:32 am
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Hmm, Halo is alot better.. I've complained everday since it was up when I was staffing at Superfortress..

1. It was stealing the zones population
2. Some of the stuff was stolen
3. I didn't like their previous owner

Those were the main things I didn't like about it.. but ever since we've gotten a new owner and a different set of staff.. I think its turning out pretty cool..
we get more people everyday, the events are hosted constantly , Staff doesn't seem to have any trouble with one another, and lots of people enjoy the zone.

And if anybody doesn't like the zone, I think they can stop complaining about it and move on with their lives, Halo is a great zone to play.. and I'm not much into playing in zone's in Subspace.. but this place is actually fun.

The people who seem the have the most problems with it would be other zone owners, they continue to complain about their people leaving their zone moving to SSCC Halo CTF.. They usually end up making an excuse about it.. saying that stuff are stolen from other zones when it isn't true, Halo doesn't have one stolen thing, maby some stuff look alike.. but overall not really.. I betcha every zone thats not SSC related has SSCU Trench Wars - Tiles - Graphics - I'm not gonna say anything about events because Elim is in every damn zone.. So I suggest that you stop complaining about Halo , and get a life and complain about TW somemore like people used to always do.

Thanks
Hempz - Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:40 am
Post subject: Re: My ol' friend, HALO.
Freakman Bob wrote:
Halo list of abuses:

#1 - 1 week ban for "advertising".

I will admit that I harassed the Mods a little, so I sort of deserved this. HOWEVER, they didn't even tell Agurus, the Owner, what happened.

That's because they specifically say in their Mod Protocol (Quote):

Advertising: this is something to be cracked down on.

#2 - 10,000 minute Zip (Do the math, roughly one week)

Ahem.. anyone say "No reason"?

I was never given any reason for this, other than "You're staff at War Era" (Halo's rival zone).

Let me compare this to a 3 day Zip for excessive spamming, swearing, and, I believe, minor slurs.

#3 -

Since then I have been continually zipped for no reason, never given a reason by Mods, and also told "You're staff at War Era".

I've been zipped straight through for 2 days now, and I currently have 1200-1400 minutes (Eh, I keep forgetting.) until I can talk again.

I'm just waiting...

Oh, yes, since I'm too lazy to go back and backspace that:

I was zipped for 1440 a few days ago, someone lifted my Zip, I was zipped yesterday afternoon, then this afternoon, right as my Zip ended.. SURPRISE, someone showed up, Zipped me, and was gone.

ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE! ABUSE!


BY the WAY THAT LAST POST BEFORE ME WAS ME !!






lMFAO


Your such a dumbass... Your a loser.. you advertise
Why would you give a shit if you are banned differently
you actually think this comment will get us shut down?
think again... I dont know you.. but your on my perm ignore.txt
GG
lp_street_soldier - Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:49 pm
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Your an immature baby who needs to seriously grow up! There's one moderator for you Agurus.
Muskrat - Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:30 pm
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myke wrote:
dark, all of the power abusers are gone? like lord flash and whatnot?

Yessir, Lord Flash has been gone for a long time, and for those of you who dont know, Lord Flash = Gemini Dream former host of WLI/USD in the old days. Plus, he was supposed to have been netbanned for life is what I had heard before, and I also've seen this:
From my logs wrote:
Agurus> Why were u banned from ssc?
Johnny1> i told priitk i was gonna wipe out his servers
Johnny1> and im sure rat here knows i have the ability lol
Muskrat> :\

(Johnny101 = Lord Flash)
more logs wrote:
^1172 access:1 by Lord Tsura 2004-02-13 21:51 days:30 67.69.206.153:8 mid:1681169463 Lord Flash
Cross-Zone harassment (7 day ban per 1st offence by guidlines set by GS) Was asked at least 5 times to stop cross zone msgs and harassment also givng out personal information on chats this is Gemini Dream BTW


^1192 by Lord Tsura 2004-05-14 16:36 days:30 67.69.206.153:8 Lord Flash
See ban #1172 This is 2nd offence giving out personal information of ssc zone operators to other players within ssc/ctm This is Gemini Dream BTW"


Rest assured I will use anything within my power to stop this slimy character from gaining any power in a zone.
Cyan~Fire - Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:31 pm
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Agurus wrote:
LF or those old sluts that used to staff

Hempz wrote:
lMFAO


Your such a dumbass... Your a loser.. you advertise
Why would you give a shit if you are banned differently
you actually think this comment will get us shut down?
think again... I dont know you.. but your on my perm ignore.txt
GG


Oh yeah, you both definitely proved your point about being mature and responsible.

Dark Clouds, you sound like good staff but "laissez-faire" is for stupid righties. icon_razz.gif
Muskrat - Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:35 pm
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You forgot me tongue.gif and DC+ is a good guy, dont nitpick.
Cyan~Fire - Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:06 pm
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Oh, ok, you sound reasonable, too. I was just having some fun with DC+, I mean, I complimented him, right?
D1st0rt - Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:56 pm
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IMO, staff should be trained before they are given any real power. Watching them closely as they gain experience staffing helps to ensure quality staffing. It's also important to communicate with all of the staff and make sure everyone is on the same page
Confess - Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:27 am
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One of my most famous quotes would probably be "If you do not like the zone, and you are not willing to improve it when you can, do NOT post anything bad about it" well, i guess i have been a little bit of a hypocrite.

I am going to try and talk to Agurus about possibly giving me staff cord for a while, so i can better the staff members and hopefully crack down on the violators. I will see if he is willing to give me all banning powers, with no bans made by other people. If he is willing, we can hopefully get rid of these horrid 10yrold kids.

You guys sit there and complain, but why not try and better halo? If you dont like the staff, and the way they act, get it to stop, dont just talk about it. If Agurus doesnt want help, nor will he let you help, than you are given the right to speak, but untill you have actually tried and helped, dont say anything.

Its going to take time before the staff is made better. It will not hapen overnight. Please, remember these words, "If you are not willing to improve a zone, when you think it sucks, do NOT say or post anything bad about it, till you have actually tried to help improve it"

I am not expecting anything out of this, nothing gained from me. It will not help raise my zones population, or anything, yet i am trying to improve other zones, even when i have my own. See, if we want Subspace to remain "In Business" we all have to work together, we cant have it as a competition. When people ask to use some of my things, generally i will let them, this is because i want to better Subspace. Sure, if someone is using it without permission, im going to kick them in the ass. Cant we all just get along?
Muskrat - Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:16 pm
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I'm trying my best to improve Halo, as far as the actual zone we are doing great and very close to releasing a whole slew of new stuff. Our main problem may be the people, both some of the staff and players. Our mods need training and discipline and, for reasons I can't quite explain, probably the majority or our players are complete idiots. This is probably true in many other zones as well, I jsut wish they would read the rules before playing. *sigh*
Purge - Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:00 pm
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You should hire mods who are experienced and need no training. icon_smile.gif
Muskrat - Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:13 pm
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Easier said than done, not many player's in halo are up to it. Those who can do the job aren't nearly as active as we need them to be.
Confess - Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:55 pm
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Against all attempts to fix these problems, Agurus has refused to give me staff coord. He has refused that anything is wrong with teh staff, and has refused that anything will happen. Therefore, by him doing this, he has said that he does not want the problems to be fixed.

The bot plugin has gone down, and none of you seem to know how to fix it. How simple is it to go into the folder, find the dll name, type !load ____.dll, this is just one of the many reasons you need better staff. You, especially, should know what to do Agurus.

After i spoke with you, a mod then zipped a person for having anti on, understandable, but wouldnt it make more sence to do *prize -20? You staff....they need bettering....
My offer stands till Monday at 5:00pm central. If you cannot reach me, you may email me at confess321@yahoo.com.
Muskrat - Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:15 pm
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Well its not easy to waltz into a zone and ask to be staff coord and expect a welcome party because your name is confess. Confess+, Dark Clouds+ you both can do the job, its not the staff coord that needs replacing.

What exactly you can do to magically cure our staff problem I dont know, the obvious step of firing the inactive and incompetent staff is easy. What then? conjure up some people who have never played halo(cuz i know halo's players can't do it) to moderate the zone 24/7 perfectly?

As for plugins, please, dont tell me how to load a plugin, our antiwarp checker stopped working rather randomly yesterday. I'll get around to fixing that later.

btw mods cant *prize tongue.gif


On a completely unrelated matter lots of people who used to hang around dissing halo are pming me quite often, and it grows as the zone's population grows, I think some peoples sweet teeth are finally noticing this pie which is looking tastier every day.

Sorry if I look like im ranting, just putting forth a point I think you should take into consideration.
Purge - Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:25 pm
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Just let Halo do whatever they feel like it. Or better yet, what Agurus wants.
Muskrat - Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:28 pm
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Our population is growing every day and we have loads of new graphics and stuff already worked up, I guess I shouldnt cry my eyes out too hard.


and btw I jsut noticed: http://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?t=4153

seems to be the .dll problem we have so dont call me a retard for that confess, cuz yeah I set up all the bot stuff for halo.
Confess - Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:07 pm
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I know mods cannot prize... thats why i went in and said ?help Smods, do not silence, use *prize #-20 blah blah blah. The staff coord would not have been fired. And no, i would not have just expelled the inactive staff members. I plan on firing the abusive staff, through proof. I would have only been staff coord for as long as it took, so temporary. Mabey around a month or so.
D1st0rt - Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:40 pm
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Uh, you're coming off as pretty arrogant to me Confess, maybe if you took a less... say invasive approach? Even if they are doing something that isn't perfect, you should NEVER lecture the staff of another zone, its just plain rude.

Then you expect them to just welcome you with open arms because you are telling them how much they all suck? That, because as soon as you show up all of their problems will magically disappear? While you might have good intentions, you are definately going about it the wrong way. I mean, giving a deadline?! Who do you think you are, seriously? I can understand their feelings, I wouldn't want some condescending prick telling me what to do.

On a final note, its perfectly fine to kick people who are doing something they know they shouldn't. It's their own fault for breaking the rules, no antiwarp in center is nothing extreme, its a very common rule across many zones.
Confess - Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:58 pm
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I came on a little bit strong, yes i know.
Agurus said that "You will have to close youe zone" and i am not willing to do that, i am simply trying to tell him that he has work that needs to be done in the zone. Agurus does not want this problem fixed. If he did, he would have accepted the offer as it was, and not tooken it as an oppertunity to take my zone down. i came in as a friend, to help his zone. And he uses it against me? I simply am giving him a deadline to fix the problem. My offer stands as it is, untill Monday 5pm central, thats final. Dont like it? Why dont you deal with it, instead of just talking. Im acting, you guys talk. I have the right to give a deadline till my offer expires, do i not? Is it not a free country? I said in my post " am not expecting anything out of this, nothing gained from me. It will not help raise my zones population, or anything, yet i am trying to improve other zones, even when i have my own. See, if we want Subspace to remain "In Business" we all have to work together, we cant have it as a competition. When people ask to use some of my things, generally i will let them, this is because i want to better Subspace. Sure, if someone is using it without permission, im going to kick them in the ass. Cant we all just get along?" and yet that is exactly what he didnt do, he took it as a way of eliminating the competition. As i said, i simply am giving him a deadline to fix what he did. I am willing to staff in halo ONLY when hired between now, and monday at 5pmcentral.
Muskrat - Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:40 am
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ok, backspacing the flame....

Confess, I see that wish to help(I guess) but I dont exactly see what you have to offer that will turn Halo around. I as a sysop admit yes we have a problem with mods who have no clue what they are doing. What's an easy solution? Fire them. Easy. Right? well of course, but what then. We have a great zone with lots of population, lots of cool stuff, and lots of cheaters, exploiters and what-have-you.
If you propose a solution which involves actually hiring good mods who know what they are doing, please do. That is the help we need. I dont need someone to tell me which mods need to be fired. They make that obvious enough themselves.
I also really cant tell if you are jsut using this to make yourself seem better than Halo or if you truly want to help. Posting a "Strong" message which even mocked me in particular(you may not have known it but yeah me) is not the way to help. As you have your Maxim I will tell you this that I have told others asking for any level of staff.

If you want staff show me that you can do it. Actions speak louder than words.

A good application of this would be to line up a couple of good mods and supply us(me, DC+ or Ag) with list of abusive mods and proof. Then I would defenitely endorse your ideas(and yes Agurus respects and listens to what I have to say on matters).

j/k about the flame thing, but it would have been easy tongue.gif
Agurus - Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:57 am
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Alright, what irritates me Confes is that you blab on how bad my staff is, plus I don’t hire any staff that are staffing in other zones, which is some thing Halo hates, mainly becuases people don’t know how to manage their time. Also you asked for a temporarily sysop, staff coord, we don’t plan to hire you for 3 days, you screw us over by jacking our files up. Hey you’re a great guy, but what you want wont easily happen. YOu also say that my staff abuses, lots of people say that but they give no proof? IT isnt a very forcefull argument, saying my staff abuses when you have no proof to give now is it? true that the mods act stupid some time, like Hempz who was just fired, for comign in "drunk" on SS and jacking around, or like not knowing what to do, but we can't help there the best we can get who are active, you must know realiase age span of halo are a bunch of little kiddie newbs who dont know who just learned to cuss. As for you saying about that plugin, we were hacing alota shit with that and were tirng to get it fixed wondering if sum1 else had same problem, and we dont BAN people with anti in safe, just live with it in teh mean time. Halos gotten here with out much help and i know we can get farther, im not trying to flame just want to make peace and fix halo's past....
Cyan~Fire - Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:16 pm
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Can we just let this thread die and not have some third-class philosophical discussion?
Anonymous - Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:38 pm
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true lol, these post are getting larger and larger, but hey its nice to hear others opnions
Confess - Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:08 pm
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Look, i was there Ag, i saw it with my own eyes. SacTu silenced a person for using anti in center, it was understandable. As i was saying, it would have made more sence for a smod to just do *prize #-20.

Now, as for my plan.

I was planning on implimenting a bot plugin that i have had for Ghost Recon. The plugin checks to see how long the person has been on, you can also add people to a list. This helps you find out who has been in the zone a lot, and who would know what to do. This would eliminate some of the newbs that come into the zone asking for staff, because they are trying to become a mod in a zone so they can expirence it. Understandable if they did it, we all have done it. I know i have. I went into Maximum Limits without know anything at all, i just came in and said "Can i be staff"? like most people do/did. Agurus, im sure you have, im sure anyone who is a staff member/ was a staff member has done it, even Priitk.

Second, i would process the star(*) warning system that i have used in Ghost Recon.

Now, as for firing the abusers, i would simply have the person that was banned unrightfully login to a netmeeting server, share the desktop, let them login to the zone, and if someone bans them with no reason <like the guy who started this topic was> then the person would recieve a warning. The reason i would give a warning is because we all are human, we all make mistakes, so we all deserve a second chance. If the person does it again, i would ban/remove from staff.

I still have a copy of things im still working on.
Now, as for the sysop, Agurus, you of all people should know me better. If you think that i would reuin my well deserved rep just to ruin a zone like yours....i do not want to help your zone. Why in the world would i do such a thing, huh? Im not that type of person.

Back to the staff....
I would use the application plugin, eliminating some more of the newbie staff members hired... I'd have daily drills to train the staff. I'd login occassionaly under alias, and ask a question. If the staff members are smart, they will help me.

I would login under alias, cuss out people, do a whole bunch of things to get me banned, and see what they do, and how they react.

I'd put everyone on a staff channel, and when someone needs help, a staff member will say "I got this one" etc.

I'd have a couple of intense training courses too, training all of the staff members who need to be trained. Again, increasing there knowledge of what to do.

My offer stands until Monday. Thats final. Take it or leave it.
Anonymous - Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:22 pm
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thanks but no thanks, i apreciate your offer, but i am not replacing my staff or using a teqnuie from another zone, nor i don't plan to use any other applic system, i think Halo is fine how it handels the staff and dont ASSUME that its abuse becuse some one zipped or silence someone else, you DONT know what else happned, i really dont think this topic is getting ne where now, and in conclusion i leave your request.
MS-DOS - Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:48 am
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Never heard so much rubbish for this zone. Confess just leave Agurus alone and run your own server and zone.
Cyan~Fire - Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:52 am
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Well, I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with MS-DOS. icon_smile.gif
myke - Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:53 pm
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i really never had a problem with halo besides the staff that they used to have like lord flash cause he abused powers along with some others, other than that halo wasn't too bad after i got used to the settings
Dark Clouds+ - Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:17 pm
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Lord Flash is gone and has been gone for quite some time. All these accusations of halo having a bad staff are all in the past. We assure you none of our current staff abuses their power to their advantage. The ones who had in the past are all axed, so there's nothing to worry about.

Please have this topic CLOSED.
Cyan~Fire - Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:23 pm
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I think he already realizes this, you can stop saying it now.

myke wrote:
staff that they used to have like lord flash

I\/Ir Beefie - Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:49 pm
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Funny
Purge - Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:19 pm
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I\/Ir Beefie wrote:
Funny


Funny that you get fired wherever you go? sa_tongue.gif
Muskrat - Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:19 pm
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Since its already bumped, I'll make this note about Lord Flash, hes now netbanned for the next year, he was being quite a bother. Oh well, no more worries abotu that.
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