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RAYfighter - Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:08 am
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Hey all,

SuSE asked me to post the ship roll animation template for 3ds max. It's version 6, so you can open it in both 6, and 7. Short info is written inside the scene. There is also some sample fighter - use it for your reference to place your models correctly before linking them to the animated Dummy.
Make sure your model doesn't run out of the rendering output - I'm using Show Ghosting to check this.
For rendering setup, you should turn Super black on to avoid holes in your rendered ship (RGB 0,0,0 = transparent ingame). Don't antialias against background, too.

Enjoy.

Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:15 am
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roll is evil >___________________>

Assassin2684 - Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:22 am
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I like roll sometimes, it depends which ships its used with.

Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:18 pm
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Roll is good for zones with airplanes and spaceships, etc.

Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:57 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

Roll is good for zones with airplanes and spaceships, etc.

they look nice...except it confuses precise and accurate aiming in gameplay =_=

Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:32 pm
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True, but with practice (like in EG) you can master the gameplay.

Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:33 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

True, but with practice (like in EG) you can master the gameplay.

i dont remember roll being in EG >_>

Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:34 pm
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...The default ships have roll which is also in EG.

Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:41 pm
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well putting aside the default ships which you wont notice enough to hamper your gameplay (or done well enough not to) custom ships i have seen so far hamper gameplay whenever they have roll =_=

Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:42 pm
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Lol, indeed.

SuSE - Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:54 pm
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if you're looking at your ship while you aim, you're hopeless anyways

Phyran - Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:07 pm
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SuSE wrote:

if you're looking at your ship while you aim, you're hopeless anyways

>_________________> its hard to look at where you are aiming when the ship you are in has a crooked leg when it turns @_@

Solo Ace - Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:34 pm
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SuSE feels which direction his ship's going in.
That's how real men do it.

Purge - Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:44 pm
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I just radar shoot.

RAYfighter - Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:29 am
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My oppinion is that roll looks always cool on any ship. And if you wanna blame roll for your crappy aim, you can always turn it off in options. I could even imagine using roll feature for soldiers and those "shipsets", which are not any airplane nor ship actually.
And what really makes me sad are those shipset maker wannabes who steal some crappy scifi fighter from some starcrack site and put it into those funny tools like EZ image rotator - the result: when you rotate your ship, also the sun runs in circles around the world. You don't have to be graphics God to laff at that

Aside of that since other players' ships does not roll, I decided to save some (reasonable) download size for my upcoming race arena = no rolls. (just imagine it, you and your opponent, fighting for 1st and 2nd place, drifting some long wide turn at a full speed - your racer is excellently banked, while his is just like a pinned bug.. )

Phyran - Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:56 am
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RAYfighter wrote:

do what you will, starting a new zone with no rolls is a good idea...when your population is low or dead people is discouraged from dling big files only to find something disappointing, as more and more ppl come in...u can probably add in roll

Purge - Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:21 pm
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Or start off with roll on an optional status, and tell your pop to disable it if they want to.

Phyran - Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:01 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

Or start off with roll on an optional status, and tell your pop to disable it if they want to.

But Roll ships take up a lot of file size regardless...ppl would still need to download them

RAYfighter - Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:48 am
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Purge+ wrote:

Or start off with roll on an optional status, and tell your pop to disable it if they want to.

This would lead to crippled ships - your custom arena ship when player is steady for example, and default ships or player's custom ships when he's rolling.
Anyway, I was not asking, just wanted to say that the template is here, so I don't wanna see another EZ rotator crap

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Phyran - Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:35 am
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RAYfighter wrote:

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This would lead to crippled ships - your custom arena ship when player is steady for example, and default ships or player's custom ships when he's rolling.
Anyway, I was not asking, just wanted to say that the template is here, so I don't wanna see another EZ rotator crap

editted not everything non-roll is crap......

Purge - Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:41 am
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Yes it is.

Smong - Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:02 am
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RAYfighter wrote:

your custom arena ship when player is steady for example, and default ships or player's custom ships when he's rolling.

If you put custom ships in some lvz, then it disables rolls unless it also finds rolls in the lvz.

RAYfighter - Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:20 am
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Phyran wrote:

not everything non-roll isnt crap......

You didn't understand it perhaps - what I have meant is that you should use 3D for ships regardless you plan to make/use rolls or not. Simple because rotated pic is incorrectly lit, not to mention image quality...

Smong wrote:

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If you put custom ships in some lvz, then it disables rolls unless it also finds rolls in the lvz.

Finaly something on topic. Thanks Smong, valuable info!