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General Questions - about the continuum skins

Phyran - Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:22 pm
Post subject: about the continuum skins
is it possible for the skin to show ships from a certain zone rather than the default ships gfx from yer directory? :\
Mr Ekted - Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:38 pm
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View/Options/Menu/Zone-Specific-Ships

This will show the ships.bm2 or shipX.bm2 files from that zone's folder. Unfortunately, the menu code doesn't look inside LVZ. With cont 0.39, LVZ are no longer extracted, so you need to put the files there yourself.
Phyran - Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:48 pm
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using continuum .38

btw: how do i customize the menu to show custom ship names like what it said on the zone-specific ships thing


editted: nvm i see it...only for gundam wing for some reason
Mr Ekted - Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:42 pm
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Oh. Sorry, I don't support that kind of thing.
Phyran - Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:46 pm
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Mr Ekted wrote:
Oh. Sorry, I don't support that kind of thing.


...o_o

well i mean...Gundam Wing Zone shows extra descriptions regarding the ships in the skin when u select them

like ex: Warbird. DogFighter
Mr Ekted - Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:56 am
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Yes you can change the text using shipinfo.dat, but again since it's no longer extracted, it won't be used unless you put it there manually.

Code: Show/Hide
; Blank lines and those starting with semicolons are ignored.
; Leading and trailing spaces are removed.
; All lines must appear in the order stated below.
; Use * by itself as a placeholder for the default text.

; 8 ship names in normal order (max 16 chars).

Warbird
Javelin
Spider
Leviathan
Terrier
Weasel
Lancaster
Shark

; 8 ship descriptions for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.
; Use * by itself here will use the ship name(s)
; defined above as "Select ship: <name>."

Select ship: Warbird.
Select ship: Javelin.
Select ship: Spider.
Select ship: Leviathan.
Select ship: Terrier.
Select ship: Weasel.
Select ship: Lancaster.
Select ship: Shark.

; Spectator description for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.

Spectate (watch the game).

; Ship box description for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.

Select one of eight ships to fly, or be a spectator. You can always change your mind while in the game.

SuSE - Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:18 am
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manually = misc:levelfiles=ships.bm2,shipinfo.dat,anyOtherStuffYouMightHave.lvz

and afaik the ships.bm2 must be a bmp renamed a bm2, but it has been a while sa_tongue.gif
Phyran - Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:43 pm
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okay thx a lot guys

i have another question that stem from all these possibilities biggrin.gif

is it possible to change the ingame menu of the ship names?
like when u press esc u see those ship names listed 1-8
are they changeable thru any means (lvz.? alternate methods?)
CypherJF - Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:48 pm
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i don't like that whole thing because then the zone owners are out to put the ship#.bm2 [or w/e] which means Continuum reads those ships, even in arena's that you don't want those ships being used. *sigh* So if you want your VIE ships for a subarena, you need to LVZ the VIE ships, even though they're defaulted, etc. etc.

I don't support using zone-specific ships for that reason; and since it's off by default (i think), many user's won't even tend to use it. But eh, more power to the user.

my 2 cents on that matter.
Cyan~Fire - Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:41 pm
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Ekted wrote:
With cont 0.39, LVZ are no longer extracted, so you need to put the files there yourself.

OK, maybe I'm slow, but I don't understand that. Can you give me a before/after for 38 and 39?
Mr Ekted - Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:54 pm
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I don't know when the transisition came. The older functionality was that LVZ's were downloaded, and all the files in them were extracted into the zone--and possibily arena--directory. Now Cont downloads them and grabs the files from them in real-time without extracting. This allows users to put replacement graphics in the same folder as the LVZ to override things.
Cyan~Fire - Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:06 pm
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Oh. I never remember Continuum extracting zone files for me. It's before 38, at least.
SuSE - Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:17 pm
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Phyran wrote:
is it possible to change the ingame menu of the ship names?
like when u press esc u see those ship names listed 1-8
are they changeable thru any means (lvz.? alternate methods?)
They're changeable by using shipinfo.dat, which Ekted already mentioned.
CypherJF wrote:
i don't like that whole thing because then the zone owners are out to put the ship#.bm2 [or w/e] which means Continuum reads those ships, even in arena's that you don't want those ships being used. *sigh* So if you want your VIE ships for a subarena, you need to LVZ the VIE ships, even though they're defaulted, etc. etc.

I don't support using zone-specific ships for that reason; and since it's off by default (i think), many user's won't even tend to use it. But eh, more power to the user.

my 2 cents on that matter.
It's fine for zones that don't use the standard ships (or use them rarely) - Metal Gear, for instance, would have little issue.

Regardless, it's only a problem for zones with disorganized staffers.

I think it was .38 that introduced the new .lvz behavior. I'm rather doubt it was worth it, but I haven't personally ever sought to determine how substantial the speed increase (by not extracting) is.
Phyran - Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:14 pm
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i havent tried shipinfo.dat yet but in what order should the descriptions/names go?

warbird
javelin
...etc?


*im not being lazy just that i abit busy with life atm*

but thx and as a curious sidenote what other "secrets" are there besides shipinfo.dat and title.dat? =Da

+_+
SuSE - Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:51 am
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...Phy, bro, just _look_ at the thing:
Mr Ekted wrote:
Code: Show/Hide
; Blank lines and those starting with semicolons are ignored.
; Leading and trailing spaces are removed.
; All lines must appear in the order stated below.
; Use * by itself as a placeholder for the default text.

; 8 ship names in normal order (max 16 chars).

Warbird
Javelin
Spider
Leviathan
Terrier
Weasel
Lancaster
Shark

; 8 ship descriptions for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.
; Use * by itself here will use the ship name(s)
; defined above as "Select ship: <name>."

Select ship: Warbird.
Select ship: Javelin.
Select ship: Spider.
Select ship: Leviathan.
Select ship: Terrier.
Select ship: Weasel.
Select ship: Lancaster.
Select ship: Shark.

; Spectator description for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.

Spectate (watch the game).

; Ship box description for menu mouse-over.
; Max is 255 chars, but may be clipped by skin.

Select one of eight ships to fly, or be a spectator. You can always change your mind while in the game.

other "secrets"...chatbg and the splash image, I guess
Phyran - Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:43 am
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thx for putting up with me biggrin.gif

I just realize how stupid i am...somehow my eyes skim over Mr. Ekted's post



splashimage isnt really a secret but i didnt know about chatbg

thx
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