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Sercit - Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:21 pm
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Why is it that there is hardly any free tutorials on C++ worth reading! I've been useing google for the past two years and it has been good to me.. until i came to this subject! All the tutorials i have found are the same things! or jsut adds for some... I'm desperately trying to teach myself C++ But I can't get no where.. Help me.. I'm a newbi coder drowning in jargon!

WarFan - Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:07 pm
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Try kazaa and search for C++ for documents.. all kinds of good stuff or an eBook irc channel.

Mine GO BOOM - Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:57 pm
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Could try the exact same way I learned most of it. Edit other people's files, and try compiling it. If it works, good. If it doesn't, try again.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:59 pm
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http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

Where I learned all my stuff.

Helicon - Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:02 pm
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just to clarify, is this your first computer language...? if so i would recommend starting with a less bits-and-grit language to lead you in to c and c++. Obviously, some will tell you this is unnecessary, but i think it pays off, especially if its a RAD (Rapid Application Development) language...
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Sercit - Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:20 pm
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Actualy i've been to cplusplus.com just recently and printed off a few pages to read while i tinkered. Very useful, only I couldn't understand a word of what i did afterwards. =\ Damn Hello world!

and yes, I'm a complete newb to programing.. This is my first language, but I had hoped by learning a program that was used by a lot of others that where moderately versed in it i'd be able to find people that'll be willing to help me. so far it's worked to a mild extent.

Helicon - Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:16 pm
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all i know is that i'd rather get the hang of using strings before i decided to look at bytes and MFC class implementations to get something other than the command line.
Sorry to say i can't think of a decent (and free) C-style RAD language at the moment. Python/Jython came to mind, but that syntax is *unique*, though useable.
Someone back me up here.... ?

Dr Brain - Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:18 pm
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Java?

Cyan~Fire - Tue Sep 16, 2003 6:55 pm
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Javas cool, but I personally started with Visual Basic (I know, it's not free). It's well documented and a million times easier than C++. But, of course, no where near as versatile.

Or, even better, if you have a graphing calculator, program on that. It's darn easy and you can make useful math progs in the meantime (

Sercit - Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:31 am
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!! alright, i decided to go with Java, but i'm haveing problems finding java compilers.. I swear.. Google hates me..

Dr Brain - Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:38 am
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http://java.sun.com/

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

Get the latest J2SE JDK (Java SDK).

Then get TextPad. Trust me, this is the best Java editor. It has the java compiler and runtime linked in as tools, so all you need to do is Ctrl+1 to compile, then Ctrl+2 to run.

Dr Brain - Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:41 am
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Javas cool, but I personally started with Visual Basic (I know, it's not free). It's well documented and a million times easier than C++. But, of course, no where near as versatile.

I also learned using VB, but I regret that. It's a weakly typed language, and it took me a long time to get over the bad habbits I developed using it. Not to mention the fact that Java can do everything VB can, and it runs on Linux.

Smong - Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:23 pm
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Dr Brain wrote:

Not to mention the fact that Java can do everything VB can

So you can access .dll's?

Dr Brain - Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:53 pm
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Of course. Java Native Interface uses DLLs to run native code.

It stops being cross platform when you do, but you can always include platform specific DLLs for each OS.

AlphaBoB - Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:35 pm
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*learns Java*

Cyan~Fire - Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:56 pm
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Heh yeah.
The only problem I have with Java is its inability to run standalone, you need to run it with a VM. You have to install VB dlls, but you can just run the programs like executables.

Dr Brain - Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:13 pm
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You can run .jar file like .exes once the JRE is installed. But ya, that is a drawback.